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Affirmative Action kaput?
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movingviolation
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-03/trump-reverses-obama-era-policies-use-race-college-admissionsQuote: As Donald Trump moves to undo every last trace of Obama's legacy, the WSJ reported that on Tuesday, the Trump administration reversed Obama-era policies that encourage the use of race in college admissions "to promote diverse educational settings." Instead, the Trump administration will encourage the nation’s school superintendents and college presidents to adopt race-blind admissions standards.
The reversal would restore the policy set during President George W. Bush’s administration, when officials told schools that it “strongly encourages the use of race-neutral methods” for admitting students to college or assigning them to elementary and secondary schools.
Attorney General Jeff Sessions made the official announcement Tuesday afternoon.
"The American people deserve to have their voices heard and a government that is accountable to them. When issuing regulations, federal agencies must abide by constitutional principles and follow the rules set forth by Congress and the President," Sessions said. "In previous administrations, however, agencies often tried to impose new rules on the American people without any public notice or comment period, simply by sending a letter or posting a guidance document on a website. That's wrong, and it's not good government."
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| Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:55 pm |
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Rix86
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Racism bad.
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| Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:56 pm |
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cityslicker
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That shit needs to be abolished ASAP. That AND diversity hiring.
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| Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:09 pm |
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RockHopper
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cityslicker wrote: That shit needs to be abolished ASAP. That AND diversity hiring. What the fuck he said.
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| Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:16 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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Affirmative action is the ideology that the solution to past racial discrimination is more racial discrimination...
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Guns4Liberty
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TechnoWeenie wrote: Affirmative action is the ideology that the solution to past racial discrimination is more racial discrimination... Exactly. Two wrongs don't make a right. Not now, not ever.
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leadcounsel
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Once again, TRUMP is MAGA!
Trump haters just don't get it...
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| Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:29 pm |
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Alpine
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Technically they made it optional, however, once Kennedy is gone another case might flip it as solidly illegal.
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| Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:06 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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Just had some guy saying that affirmative action wasn't discrimination because it was 'making up' for previous discrimination and it's required because we have created... "conditions where it's virtually impossible for many black people to succeed" He then turned around and said I must hate black people, and it was OK for me to be racist because I couldn't change anything anyway. Wait. I'm the guy saying it doesn't matter what color your skin is, treat everyone the same. I'm the one saying that anyone can be whatever they wanna be, they just gotta work for it.. HE is saying that black people 'need help' to do anything.... but I'm the racist one? How the fuck? 
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| Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:31 pm |
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Eagle Chaplain
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Wasn't it an American of African decent that said we should judge on the character of the person and not the color of their skin?
I am all for following Martin Luther King Jr.'s advice on the matter on how to judge people as to who is deserving.
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| Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:56 pm |
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cyclonegt
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Funny, I was just reading up on one of our Supreme Court Justices. She had this to say about Affirmative Action.
Sotomayor entered Princeton University on a full scholarship,[31] by her own later description gaining admission in part due to her achievements in high school and in part because affirmative action made up for her standardized test scores not being fully comparable to those of other applicants.[32][33] She would later say that there are cultural biases built into such testing[32] and praise affirmative action for fulfilling "its purpose: to create the conditions whereby students from disadvantaged backgrounds could be brought to the starting line of a race many were unaware was even being run."
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| Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:16 pm |
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Alpine
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TechnoWeenie wrote: Just had some guy saying that affirmative action wasn't discrimination because it was 'making up' for previous discrimination and it's required because we have created... "conditions where it's virtually impossible for many black people to succeed" He then turned around and said I must hate black people, and it was OK for me to be racist because I couldn't change anything anyway. Wait. I'm the guy saying it doesn't matter what color your skin is, treat everyone the same. I'm the one saying that anyone can be whatever they wanna be, they just gotta work for it.. HE is saying that black people 'need help' to do anything.... but I'm the racist one? How the fuck?  Tell those fuckers that MLK Jr wanted equality and peace, not revenge.
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| Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:42 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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Alpine wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: Just had some guy saying that affirmative action wasn't discrimination because it was 'making up' for previous discrimination and it's required because we have created... "conditions where it's virtually impossible for many black people to succeed" He then turned around and said I must hate black people, and it was OK for me to be racist because I couldn't change anything anyway. Wait. I'm the guy saying it doesn't matter what color your skin is, treat everyone the same. I'm the one saying that anyone can be whatever they wanna be, they just gotta work for it.. HE is saying that black people 'need help' to do anything.... but I'm the racist one? How the fuck?  Tell those fuckers that MLK Jr wanted equality and peace, not revenge. Very well said, and I'm gonna do that....
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Col_Temp
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cyclonegt wrote: Funny, I was just reading up on one of our Supreme Court Justices. She had this to say about Affirmative Action.
Sotomayor entered Princeton University on a full scholarship,[31] by her own later description gaining admission in part due to her achievements in high school and in part because affirmative action made up for her standardized test scores not being fully comparable to those of other applicants.[32][33] She would later say that there are cultural biases built into such testing[32] and praise affirmative action for fulfilling "its purpose: to create the conditions whereby students from disadvantaged backgrounds could be brought to the starting line of a race many were unaware was even being run." In other words if it wasn't for an undeserved hand up I would have never made it into the prestigious college I got into and would not have been given the opportunity to ignore the constitution on every decision and instead make sure we have at least 3 looney liberal women on the supreme court. As has been getting clearer and clearer every day. There is an old saying: "Pot and Kettle...." No matter what anyone, especially Trump does will never be enough. Sorry but its time to stand on the merits of our acheivements not the fact that we are female, black, red, yellow, or any other so called "special class".
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TechnoWeenie
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TechnoWeenie wrote: Alpine wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: Just had some guy saying that affirmative action wasn't discrimination because it was 'making up' for previous discrimination and it's required because we have created... "conditions where it's virtually impossible for many black people to succeed" He then turned around and said I must hate black people, and it was OK for me to be racist because I couldn't change anything anyway. Wait. I'm the guy saying it doesn't matter what color your skin is, treat everyone the same. I'm the one saying that anyone can be whatever they wanna be, they just gotta work for it.. HE is saying that black people 'need help' to do anything.... but I'm the racist one? How the fuck?  Tell those fuckers that MLK Jr wanted equality and peace, not revenge. Very well said, and I'm gonna do that....  - Spoiler: show
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