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Re: Kid assaulted/robbed of MAGA hat, left cheers

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:13 am
by Selador
Pablo wrote:
Selador wrote:
TechnoWeenie wrote:The comments from the left on FB pages are sickening, saying violence was required to stop 'racists'...

Just a point of interest here...

Yesterday, in the lineup, there was this thread, and right after it, was the second civil war letters thread.

So, it is "sickening" when the left cheers violence. And mocks those whom violence is done against. (It is.)

But it's ok for the right to do the same...

???

And yes. I laughed at the civil war stuff. And at the 'bam' video.

Just sayin...

If you are going to do it, then don't act like it's the scummiest thing ever when the opposition does it.

If it bothers you so much, when they do it, then it is wrong for you to do it.


It bugs me both ways.

But it's interesting. One vet at work was cheering on Antifa violence against what he called, Nazis, racists, etc......I showed him some facts. He started saying he hates violence on both sides.

I can't help but laugh.

And to cheer on our side.

But when I see the other side do the same, I see how that feels.

Then I remember that I did so too.

And resolve to try to do better, the next time.

Re: Kid assaulted/robbed of MAGA hat, left cheers

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:14 am
by TINCANBANDIT
I think there is a clear distinction here

We do not advocate violence against innocent people, we advocate violence against those who intend harm or to restrict the rights of others.

As usual I will post a quote from someone who had a handle on this sort of thing:

"One bleeding-heart type asked me in a recent interview if I did not agree that ‘violence begets violence.’ I told him that it is my earnest endeavor to see that it does. I would like very much to ensure—and in some cases I have—that any man who offers violence to his fellow citizen begets a whole lot more in return than he can enjoy." - Col. Jeff Cooper

Re: Kid assaulted/robbed of MAGA hat, left cheers

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:19 am
by Selador
TINCANBANDIT wrote:I think there is a clear distinction here

We do not advocate violence against innocent people, we advocate violence against those who intend harm or to restrict the rights of others.

As usual I will post a quote from someone who had a handle on this sort of thing:

"One bleeding-heart type asked me in a recent interview if I did not agree that ‘violence begets violence.’ I told him that it is my earnest endeavor to see that it does. I would like very much to ensure—and in some cases I have—that any man who offers violence to his fellow citizen begets a whole lot more in return than he can enjoy." - Col. Jeff Cooper

So if I don't glorify violence, I'm a bleeding heart?

Re: Kid assaulted/robbed of MAGA hat, left cheers

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:46 pm
by TechnoWeenie
I don't see how you compare a man punching a guy who was swinging a baton at him (as an example) to a kid getting assaulted and his hat stolen, merely for sitting at a fast food joint eating a burger in public.

Anti-fa's mission statement is to hurt people.....

Re: Kid assaulted/robbed of MAGA hat, left cheers

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:51 pm
by L_O_G
TechnoWeenie wrote:I don't see how you compare a man punching a guy who was swinging a baton at him (as an example) to a kid getting assaulted and his hat stolen, merely for sitting at a fast food joint eating a burger in public.

Anti-fa's mission statement is to hurt people.....



Ya I agree, comparing these two instances is like comparing apples to beans.

Two kids sitting is a business eating, minding their own business yet get assaulted vs. antifa pussies going to a rally while armed with clubs with the intention of to starting shit.

BIG difference.

Re: Kid assaulted/robbed of MAGA hat, left cheers

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:59 pm
by Selador
TechnoWeenie wrote:I don't see how you compare a man punching a guy who was swinging a baton at him (as an example) to a kid getting assaulted and his hat stolen, merely for sitting at a fast food joint eating a burger in public.

Anti-fa's mission statement is to hurt people.....

Then you missed the point, entirely.

Probably my fault. I might have been able to be more clear. I don't know.

Or maybe you just didn't want to hear the actual point, and are trying to run this down a rabbit hole by changing the focus. Again, I don't know.

I did not compare the situations.

I was responding to your statement about how the comments on the left were sickening.

There is a difference. I was talking about the comments, you want to make it about the actions.

Re: Kid assaulted/robbed of MAGA hat, left cheers

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:31 pm
by TechnoWeenie
Selador wrote:
TechnoWeenie wrote:I don't see how you compare a man punching a guy who was swinging a baton at him (as an example) to a kid getting assaulted and his hat stolen, merely for sitting at a fast food joint eating a burger in public.

Anti-fa's mission statement is to hurt people.....

Then you missed the point, entirely.

Probably my fault. I might have been able to be more clear. I don't know.

Or maybe you just didn't want to hear the actual point, and are trying to run this down a rabbit hole by changing the focus. Again, I don't know.

I did not compare the situations.

I was responding to your statement about how the comments on the left were sickening.



OK, are you saying both sides call each other pieces of shit?

Because, DUH!

I would say that NeoNazis/skinheads are the equivalent of anti-fa, in terms of their relevance (or lack thereof) to the mainstream conversation, but when's the last time they got together with the stated goal of beating people up, and actually did it?

Another key difference is targeting anti-fa for our animosity, whereas anti-fa is claiming everyone who voted for Trump is a Nazi and should be killed... They're literally calling for the overthrow of the gov't and the murder of 62,984,825 Americans.

It's the same argument about 'what do you do if you see a guy waving an ISIS flag?'...

Some would say 'protected speech', others would say 'enemy combatant'....

Regardless, once they introduce violence, they're fair game, so to speak.

There is a difference. I was talking about the comments, you want to make it about the actions.


Talk is cheap. That, and the right isn't advocating killing everyone that voted for Hillary, or kicking them out of restaurants, or assaulting them and stealing pro-Hillary headwear....

Re: Kid assaulted/robbed of MAGA hat, left cheers

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:43 pm
by Selador
Complete 'fwoosh'.

I'm sorry, I think I've said all I can figure out to say.

I do wish you understood, but apparently that's not going to happen, through my efforts.

Dude! Are you doing ok? Finding places to park? Got enough to eat and drink?

Re: Kid assaulted/robbed of MAGA hat, left cheers

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:32 pm
by TechnoWeenie
Selador wrote:Complete 'fwoosh'.

I'm sorry, I think I've said all I can figure out to say.

I do wish you understood, but apparently that's not going to happen, through my efforts.

Dude! Are you doing ok? Finding places to park? Got enough to eat and drink?



Dearest Selador,

All is not well..

We are weak, as we are surrounded by non-vegan, GMO laden food that is not Gluten free. The Nazis seem willing to eat anything, but our supply of Whole Foods Organic Wheat Germ Paste was exhausted on day 2 of our skirmishes. I don't know if I'll make it, as we have rationed the last of our coconut water, and may be forced to acquire Almond milk. I only have a few sheets of dried seaweed left, to keep up my strength. Others are not so fortunate...

The horrors I've seen I wish no one has to ever see again. I saw a man so desperate, that he tore into a ham sandwich, tears streaming down his face... I don't know how a man could live like that, after eating the flesh of a living being, the gluten in the bread, the genetically modified wheat... The horror...

We encountered native tribespeople, whom we were very friendly towards, that offered us their native green skinned fruit, however we were forced to decline, as we could not, in good conscience, participate in such an appropriation of culture. Unfortunately, we were forced to flee for our lives, when a member of our unit expressed his thanks and attempted to use a local greeting. Apparently, there are words that only the tribespeople are allowed to speak. We spent all of yesterday in a peace circle, trying to cleanse ourselves of our cultural insensitivity..Realizing our inadvertent microaggressions may have caused our current situation.

If things do not get better soon, we may have to retreat a couple blocks to 6th st., where a member of our unit has a subterranean resupply area that we can rest at. Luckily, no one suspects his 60 yr. old mother to be part of the resistance...

The thought of your man bun and messenger bag give me strength, until our bikes cross paths again...



:ROFLMAO:



To answer your question....

Yes, I got places to park. Food and water is sufficient. Mostly tuna and PB&J but not horrible. I'm losing weight, which is definitely a good thing. Cans of corn and green beans add variety. I found the low sodium ones so they're actually healthy and ~.50 cents /can so cheap and healthy = good.

Finding a job is problematic..with my current limitations... I may have to explore going on disability, which I don't wanna do...But my previous poor eating choices and subsequent weight issues are beginning to manifest in shit like constant back pain...

Re: Kid assaulted/robbed of MAGA hat, left cheers

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:48 pm
by Selador
As well as can be expected then. I'm glad. Thats all the rest of us can do, as well. :bigsmile:

Don't hesitate to do what you need to. Disability is not dishonorable, if you are disabled. And if you go that route, remember that an insult is not yours, if you do not accept it. In addition to that, don't go looking for insults, either. LOL


I'm kind of glad you wrote that.

It gave me a glance at something that I have been trying to put my finger on, for a while.

PC. And what the snowflakes have made of it.


Common sense. Common courtesy. Empathy for others. These are not bad things.


But "PC" came along and perverted that.

The snowflakes have taken PC, and perverted it even further.


The originals still remain good things. Lets not toss them out just because we see perversions of them every day by people who are anything BUT, sensible, courteous, or empathetic.

Re: Kid assaulted/robbed of MAGA hat, left cheers

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:59 pm
by gscott
Selador wrote:
TechnoWeenie wrote:The comments from the left on FB pages are sickening, saying violence was required to stop 'racists'...

Just a point of interest here...

Yesterday, in the lineup, there was this thread, and right after it, was the second civil war letters thread.

So, it is "sickening" when the left cheers violence. And mocks those whom violence is done against. (It is.)

But it's ok for the right to do the same...

???

And yes. I laughed at the civil war stuff. And at the 'bam' video.

Just sayin...

If you are going to do it, then don't act like it's the scummiest thing ever when the opposition does it.

If it bothers you so much, when they do it, then it is wrong for you to do it.



When did 'the right' bring violence? I haven't been following this much lately, but the way I see it the left is bringing the violence in both cases.

If the right has a rally, or a conservative speaker, the leftist hoard shows up to shut it down with violence. Or they just show up for no reason and bring violence. I never see the 'right' show up and create mayhem for no reason. Or even go to cause trouble at leftist parades; like 'Pride' parades. Can you imagine?

The Antifa / Anarchists / Liberals are bringing the violence to silence speech they don't like. Or election results they don't like. Or whatever they don't like du jour. This is the left being violent, and when they get punished, in this case vigilante justice when the 'Patriots' fight back, we cheer.

Being a conservative sitting in a restaurant trying to eat is not violence. Wearing a MAGA hat in a restaurant is not violent. The leftist nutjobs may say it is, but it isn't. This is the left being violent again, and when they get punished by the justice system we cheer.

But maybe I missed your point.

Re: Kid assaulted/robbed of MAGA hat, left cheers

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:49 pm
by Eagle Chaplain
You forgot about the violence done to the cow so you could eat him. You forget that cows have feelings too.

Re: Kid assaulted/robbed of MAGA hat, left cheers

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:53 pm
by TechnoWeenie
Mike in Wa wrote:You forgot about the violence done to the cow so you could eat him. You forget that cows have feelings too.


BTW, the idiot claimed that the MAGA hat was like a white hood ala KKK and he overreacted.


I hope the judge takes into account his clear inability to control his emotions amidst his delusions, when he sentences him.

Re: Kid assaulted/robbed of MAGA hat, left cheers

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:55 pm
by Eagle Chaplain
He needs to be imprisoned and then given anger management classes.

Re: Kid assaulted/robbed of MAGA hat, left cheers

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:00 pm
by TechnoWeenie
Mike in Wa wrote:He needs to be imprisoned and then given anger management classes.


There was another guy looking like he was filming it, that left with him, that has been seen on his FB/Youtube.... I think one of his friends was recording him, so he could post it for the ultimate virtue signaling, not realizing it was gonna blow up in his face...

Maybe I should move to Texas, I hear they're hiring bouncers...

:bigsmile: