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^ After watching that video and reading the story, I can't find fault with the officers' behavior and shooting.

So yeah, they fired into the doorway, and there was some risk with that of hitting an innocent person. (And it turns out they did.) But what if they had NOT fired at him, and let him get into the store? Is there a reasonable chance that he would have killed people inside, taken hostages, etc.? Hell yeah. In fact, he did take hostages.

This guy was a threat to the public, and had already proven that. I think the officers shooting into the doorway was a lower-risk tactic than letting him continue unmolested into the store.

Granted, it didn't really work out the right way in this case, but I'm comfortable that they judged the odds correctly even if they lost this particular bet.

To the contrary, IMO. There were people visible near the entrance. Guns should not have been fired in that direction.

I'm sticking next to my picture of Stallone! I only put the dead horse because I edited out something much much worse. I'm neutral in this shit

Besides why are you calling me out, I saw a dead horse AND a Trainwreck

I'll tell you what though, this seems like a pretty fucking huge double standard if you ask me

https://q13fox.com/2017/09/08/bonney-la ... -neighbor/

Bingo.

And the analysis and decision was made over about 1 second.

A hard unpalatable decision, among many hard unpalatable decisions. Something we shouldn't armchair quarterback the officer about. He made a call, and if it had worked out he'd be a hero. It didn't and that was unfortunate.

To the contrary, that might have been the very reason to attempt to immediately stop the ARMED MURDEROUS FLEEING FELON. To attempt to protect these innocents from the possibility of mass murder.

One would certainly hope that upon hearing a crash and gunfire, civilians with self-interest might move and take cover or get down out of the way... not be a looky-loo and be in the way.

you sure do like your bad cop stories. I think that's all you look for when your not doing anything.

You do know that he was killed for a reason, God has to make choices. instead of searching and posting these , go out to the gym and work that anger away

Powderman always hits the nail on the head.

Jagerbomber made a very good point about the group trying to police their own.

Madpick I completely understand your weariness of the "pile on" effect that you see happening, but I think sometimes it bounces you back in the other direction too far. I think there's some merit to both sides here.

Me, I think the officer responded to a difficult situation well and a tragedy ensued. I don't think the officer deserves any sort of punishment, and I believe there will be a wrongful death lawsuit against the city with a hefty settlement for the victim's family. It's a tragedy. And had an officer been killed not returning fire, that would be a tragedy too. "Bullet sponge" is not in the job description.

Tough situation, as they usually are. TW you can't crucify every cop. There's some bad situations, there's some bad people, there's some bad outcomes, and life is shitty sometimes. I don't think this was a result of trigger happy police.

Could things have ended differently if it was Tumwater Walmart? What if LA let more good guys have guns?

Bravo! BTW: you ARE the best lawyer in this thread. And I may argue with you sometimes, but even so, I agree with you much more than I don't.

I googled "prose".

I'm still lost. LOL

My name is Jeff, and I agree with this message.

Agreed.

TW, I'd liken this to someone in a school shooting situation. The perp had already shot at cops. Had already taken a hostage. The risk was to take a chance at hitting someone else yourself, or let him HAVE the chance to kill a lot of people.

I guess everyone sees what they want to see.

Madpick sees it as piling on TW, but yet, with as much grief as TW gets, he still posts it here.

Why? Attention? Seems you would want to post in a more receptive place.

And TW saying he doesn't look for it and just posts newsfeeds rings hollow; he actually has posts he's started, saying, "I know this was months ago, or last year..."

We're those from current newsfeeds?

He also says he posts good stuff, too.

Well, something good for cop discipline happened locally, and was all over the news yesterday and last night, including in news feeds.

And I waited to see if TW posted about it....and I waited, & waited....nothing.

2 SPD cops were fired after shooting at a vehicle trying to get away.

This happened in May, and I remember TW being hell bent about this.

I couldn't find the thread, or posts, but now that heads have rolled, he posts nothing about it.

This is why folks say it's anti-cop bias.

Apologies if this is piling on....

https://q13fox.com/2018/07/23/two-seatt ... tial-area/

Jeebus....

What exactly did I say to bring this on?

(Hint: I didn't say jack shit. But yes, I agree with Massivedesign's comments, if that's what you're thinking of.)

Oops, sorry Madpick

I read Massive's post, and then read Sinus later, & just followed suit.....

Sorry.....

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