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 Pistol study, larger calibers more fatalities. 
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Oh, so one shot does it.

Good to know.

I'll tell the military trainers.

Thanks.


Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:06 pm
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RocketScott wrote:
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Correlation is not causality. This "study" cherry picked data, and did not control for significant variables, such as:
1. shooter training/experience level
2. age/sex/race/health of victim
3. number/placement of wounds
4. who fired first
5. number of rounds exchanged
6. range
7. duration
8. cover
9. time to receive/nature if medical care received
etc.


I see your point but you can't really have a scientific study about this sort of thing unless you want to start shooting people in staged circumstances.

[insert liberal lawmaker joke here]

The study analyzed data over five years. I think that's long enough to average data. They do kinda pick and choose what to weight but on the whole it's not bad.



I say we put this issue to rest. I am going to need some volenteers, a lot of them. :bigsmile:

That said I think that what you have on you is better than what is home in your safe, and you need to know how to use it

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Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:27 pm
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NWGunner wrote:
Oh, so one shot does it.

Good to know.

I'll tell the military trainers.

Thanks.


FMJ - military

HP - not military.

Make sure you also let them know. :thumbsup2:

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Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:49 pm
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NWGunner wrote:
Oh, so one shot does it.

Good to know.

I'll tell the military trainers.

Thanks.


FMJ - military

HP - not military.

Make sure you also let them know. :thumbsup2:


I'm ex-military.

I like how you continually chastise everyone for reaching uninformed conclusions on things they havent researched, yet render an off-the-cuff, happy-hour kind of conclusion, while admitting I haven't bothered to read the study .

I'll stick with my military training, but thanks.


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NWGunner wrote:
leadcounsel wrote:
NWGunner wrote:
Oh, so one shot does it.

Good to know.

I'll tell the military trainers.

Thanks.


FMJ - military

HP - not military.

Make sure you also let them know. :thumbsup2:


I'm ex-military.

I like how you continually chastise everyone for reaching uninformed conclusions on things they havent researched, yet render an off-the-cuff, happy-hour kind of conclusion, while admitting I haven't bothered to read the study .

I'll stick with my military training, but thanks.


Okay, well I've had basic physics college courses and studied some biology and wound care/treatment. I own a tape measure. I've shot bullets into things.

I understand the rudamentary fundamentals that:

.75" expanded bullet going 1100 fps does more damage to the body than a .45" expanded bullet going 800 fps, or a .30" expanded bullet going 1200 fps. If you need a study to tell you that, all things equal, one is more lethal than the other, then find. I don't really need a study to tell me these things... :wink05:

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