Well....

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/crime/police-man-killed-in-home-by-aurora-pd-monday-morning-had-fatally-shot-intruder-minutes-earlier



But it gets better...




So, the homeowner calls 911 and says there's an intruder, whereupon they attack his child, he shoots the attacker, saving the kid, then PD run up in there guns blazing and shoot the homeowner...

Bravo, Aurora PD.. Bravo...




It's cool though, because, according to the chief, the officers responded to a 'very chaotic scene'....

I'm sure they'll get a medal for 'doing the right thing'....

well, he was naked.

FYI, I picked the story up from ARFCOM...

So, it gets better..

Also, they shot him, and left him there bleeding.. No medical attention....

Family states Black had a severe hearing problem due to his military service. <- Per ARFCOM, don't have a cite for that...

The officer involved in killing this man also was involved in a deadly shooting on June 27th. He shot and killed 2 men in a month.....Nope... Not trigger happy at all...

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/l ... l-shooting

BTW, the shooting victim was a purple heart recipient, a vietnam war vet.

So, the VC couldn't kill him, but American cops did....

Here's a video of the police officer at his former job as a mall security officer....

Here we go again. Judgement before all the facts have been investigated and officially reported.

Hard to understand the concept of how police officers arriving at the scene of a shooting, encounter a man with a gun in hand (according to a network news report) who fails to follow instructions to put the weapon down, might end up shooting him.

I may be stupid at times but I assure you that the last thing I want in my hand when police arrive at a call like this is a gun. That sucker would be sitting in the middle of my front lawn while I'm sitting on the front steps with my hands on my head when they arrive. I wouldn't want to end up dead anymore than anyone of those responding officers.

This is the same agency that shut down a road and pulled every driver out of their car, at gunpoint.....




Under the banner of 'protecting the public'...

Who thought illegally detaining people and pointing shotguns at them was 'protection'?

I’ve had a defensive shooting at my home. Less than 1 minute afterward, the gun was 30’ away, on the ground. Cleared with the slide locked back, and covered with a towel.(don’t ask me why I covered it up...just instinct)

I was on the phone with 911, and standing in plain site with the hand not holding the phone raised above my head when the when cops showed up. I’d given a VERY thorough description of myself, and asked 911 to confirm that they had provided said description and location to arriving officers.

It’s a damned shame that this happened. Maybe the homeowner was worried that the attack wasn’t over. That there were more. His lack of hearing may have caused extra fear on his part, but he HAD called 911. He should’ve known better than to be standing there with a gun in his hand. Damn shame for everybody involved.

Didn't Seattle PD have someone named Nick Metz? Man with same name referenced in the story?

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Edit: yep. Same guy. Not insinuating anything, just noticed the name.

Damn.

Good eye.

Seattle Police Sustain Misconduct Finding Against Former Assistant Chief Nick Metz in Whitlatch Case

I'm working odd jobs around the country and I work in Aurora now. A roommate was involved last weekend in a shooting Fri night in Aurora. I scan the news for shootings in Aurora CO Fri night. Too many. Was it a bar, 24 hour fitness, sports club, fast food joint? Need details to nail it down. Stay the hell out of Aurora when it gets dark. Frankly I felt safer in downtown Seattle after class than I do Aurora.

Landlord said he moved to Aurora coming to CO but quickly moved out after a series of burglaries, car break ins, etc.

Aurora PD is also on nearby Buckley AFB assisting the Air Force performing random searches (every x car going out gets searched: open all doors and dump all gear for search). Airmen were nice but Aurora PD were excessive in their glee to search innocent drivers who were unluckly enough to get caught in their random searches (like me).

I don't understand why Aurora is so dangerous. It is not slummy like parts of Tacoma, Longview, etc. There are some high end employers there and I can't find an apartment for under $1k/mo. And much of it appears upscale.

Added:
North Aurora where the crime occurred is not a good area. There is a very large medical presence to include medical school and hospitals, but area is rough. I interviewed for a room nearby and glad I didn't get it. Older area more tightly packed.

I had a friend of mine who had her car searched . They pulled everything out of her car, emptied the trunk, literally just tossed everything out on the side of the road....clean clothes she kept in her car to change after school/work... everything just dumped in a pile... cops didn't find anything and walked to their car, she yelled at them asking if they were gonna help put it all back, they literally said 'not our problem' and drove away....Come to find out not only that, but they broke her air vents and her power seat by forcing it back....

They also accused her of having prescription drugs without a prescription, when she had just picked up medication from her vet, with the prescription bottles labelled '(Dog's name, her last name)', and not her first/last name....

It's the 'we can do whatever we want' attitude that grinds my gears....

I lived about 1/3rd of a mile from that intersection for about 1.5 years and drove that general area frequently while in law school.

Let me be clear - none of us here would want to live in that area. Colfax is a rough patch of road thru Aurora. Lots of desperate poverty and crime (drugs, guns, hookers). Nowhere you'd want to be longer than necessary. I had very bad experiences with crime there and moved as soon as finances allowed. Swore off "those areas" thereafter.

Let me paint a picture. A nice working class neighborhood where the folks you'd want as neighbors were driven out over a couple decades by the neighbors you don't want. That plummeted property values.
In the 1.5 years I lived there, we had constant issues with our neighbors - and not just the immediate neighbors. All the neighbors.
* Someone shot a neighbors dog which was kept outside
* We had an attempted burglarly, with a man casing our house, at 2AM or so.
* Saw lots of petty crimes
* The last straw was our immediate neighbors cat-calling my girlfriend, and when I told them to stop 3 of them came at me in my front yard and one pulled a knife.

I moved within a week, canceling my lease.

On to the shooting, too few/little information to even debate what happened. But if you have a gun in your hand when the cops arrive to a XYZ crime reported, that's not a smart move...

So, it's the victims fault?

Who's the "victim?"

Is it the homeowner? Maybe.
Is it the cops who arrived, and felt threatened by a man with a gun (aggravated assault?)? Maybe.

We don't have enough information.

If it's like other situations, I'd have expected the cops to either yell to put it down, and go thru the EOF, or if felt immediately threatened, then shoot him.

From various training I've had, I'd say you MUST communicate from the cops, don't put them at a threat, etc. Tell the 911 folks what you look like and so forth. If you're coming out of the house, yell to the cops and don't come out armed. And other obvious steps. The cops want to see you UNARMED and NOT A THREAT. It helps them, and certainly helps you live thru and encounter.

I had an interaction in that neighborhood involving lethal force. When my neighbor had his dog shot with a suspect using a small caliber (probably .22LR), I foolishly grabbed my 12 gauge and went out to investigate, walked around the yard and alley, and then went over to talk to the neighbor. Don't do that!

While standing on their porch, several cop cars screeched up, officers popped out, pointed guns, yelled "put down the gun!!!".

Guess what I did. I complied and put my hands up. They cleared the shotgun, determined in 5 seconds it was not the weapon and I was not the suspect, and gave me back the shotgun and a handful of shells and sent me on my way home.

I'm still alive. Aurora PD did their job as I'd expect with professionalism and politeness.

No seriously, he was naked

https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-fatall ... d=56945256

Also... Barfcom?? Well that actually explains a lot.