careful what you say or someone might say the same about you
Same could be said about A Sharpten...
Someone explain how Trump has to let irritating people twatt on his twatter account via First Ammendment but Zuckfuker can ban AJ?
Is 1A not an all-encompassing right?
Government can't stop you from free speech. That doesn't entitle a person use of someone else's bullhorn. Private companies don't have to allow free speech on their resources, in general. They can restrict what you say on their platform. AJ is being banned on youtube due to three violations of its community guidelines within three months. They said the strikes were for "malicious harassment and bullying. " Twitter is the only company who hasn't banned him for "breaking the rules" There's more to all of this, but that's the basics that I understand about the issue
Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:11 am
WaJim
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careful what you say or someone might say the same about you
Same could be said about A Sharpten...
Someone explain how Trump has to let irritating people twatt on his twatter account via First Ammendment but Zuckfuker can ban AJ?
Is 1A not an all-encompassing right?
Government can't stop you from free speech. That doesn't entitle a person use of someone else's bullhorn. Private companies don't have to allow free speech on their resources, in general. They can restrict what you say on their platform. AJ is being banned on youtube due to three violations of its community guidelines within three months. They said the strikes were for "malicious harassment and bullying. " Twitter is the only company who hasn't banned him for "breaking the rules" There's more to all of this, but that's the basics that I understand about the issue
What rules did he violate....
And being a freaking nut job that needs shut up cant be one of them.
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Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:30 am
Duke EB
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So calling bullshit on an ugly historic event is what got him banned...
Have all the Holocaust deniers also been banned....there's repercussions for pretty much everything a person could say.
Like calling fire in a theater.
Did Farrakhan by bellowing the crap he spewed incite more rioting when the Missouri shit was going down? Some people beleive his "Justice or Else" rallys did. His voice was not silenced.
I guess when you own the megaphone you get to choose which False View of history you publish and choose to ban the False Views you dont like.
Well I guess the MSM pretty much does that daily.
I've yet to see Feinsteeens China Collusion on regular TV news.
But Trumps Collusion "story" (has yet to be proven) is front page...daily.
BTW the article wording...
Quote:
Infowars and Alex Jones test limits of free speech on Twitter,
Is kinda Orwellian.
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"Let us Cross the river and sit in the shade of the trees" .....Stonewall Jackson
T. Jefferson "....the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it's natural manure"
Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:48 am
movingviolation
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One day after what appeared to be a coordinated attack by media giants Facebook, Apple, Spotify and Google on Alex Jones, whose various social media accounts were banned or suspended in a matter of hours, the crackdown against alternative media figures continued as several Libertarian figures, including the Ron Paul Institute director, found their Twitter accounts suspended. On Monday, Twitter suspended the editorial director of antiwar.com Scott Horton, former State Department employee Peter Van Buren, and Dan McAdams, the executive director of the Ron Paul Institute. The suspensions come days after Twitter suspended black conservative Candace Owen from Twitter for highlighting the algorithmic hypocrisy of Twitter by replacing the word “white” with “Jewish” in a series of tweets modeled on those by New York Times editor Sarah Jeong.
just after controversial conservative Alex Jones, and his podcast InfoWars, were kicked out from most social media platforms, prompting conservative to accuse the social networks of collusion in a collective crackdown on non-mainstream voices. The Silicon Valley giants were criticized by the US political establishment for failing to prevent alleged Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. Meanwhile, critics now say the pressured media giants are engaging in political censorship, using their market dominance and lack of legislated neutrality requirements to target descent voices ahead of the midterm elections.
Tarriff them. Break up their monopolies by forcing them to pay to support alternate platforms.
By the way, the word is dissent. Descent means moving downward. Journalists should be held to a higher standard of grammar.
Much simpler solution available. Twat, FB have made the conscious decision to regulate speech on their platforms. That makes them change from a neutral platform for all views, which there is no legal consequence, to a publisher, that is now responsible for every word that appears on their site.
NOW, in the world of the Federal Election Commission, that is identified as 'an in-kind political contribution", subject to FEC campaign donation laws.
A single ad impression costs what, a penny? penny and a half? Times that by a billion views, and the Twat and FB have now given hundreds of millions of dollars in political ad value to the Lefties and against the Conservatives. These campaign laws are well established. In fact, by just eliminating one side of a political argument is donating to the side they favor.
Pay up, Twat and FB!
The only answer they have is to eliminate their censorship. Or at least bring it up to a "public square" standard that lets anyone say anything, less the immediate false danger stuff like shouting "fire" in a crowded theater.
Checkmate.
Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:33 pm
Selador
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Tarriff them. Break up their monopolies by forcing them to pay to support alternate platforms.
By the way, the word is dissent. Descent means moving downward. Journalists should be held to a higher standard of grammar.
Much simpler solution available. Twat, FB have made the conscious decision to regulate speech on their platforms. That makes them change from a neutral platform for all views, which there is no legal consequence, to a publisher, that is now responsible for every word that appears on their site.
NOW, in the world of the Federal Election Commission, that is identified as 'an in-kind political contribution", subject to FEC campaign donation laws.
A single ad impression costs what, a penny? penny and a half? Times that by a billion views, and the Twat and FB have now given hundreds of millions of dollars in political ad value to the Lefties and against the Conservatives. These campaign laws are well established. In fact, by just eliminating one side of a political argument is donating to the side they favor.
Pay up, Twat and FB!
The only answer they have is to eliminate their censorship. Or at least bring it up to a "public square" standard that lets anyone say anything, less the immediate false danger stuff like shouting "fire" in a crowded theater.
Checkmate.
That could work if recognized and enforced. Possibility being that it would cost them so much that they'd be forced to stop the one sided censorship, or go out of business.
I'm thinking, though that the FEC is in the DNC pocket so deep they would at the most pay some kind of lip service to a pretended outrage.
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Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:52 pm
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I'm going to ask the same question that right wingers asked leftists in the 90s when people like Rush were dominating the AM talk radio shows. Why can't people go get their own pages or forums or create a conservative social media site and do something to make it big? What is stopping that from happening? Forcing someone to do something on a site they paid for, that they created, that they maintain seems a bit hypocritical.
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