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You can say what you want about the guy, but he went out like a Boss and he didn't hurt anyone else.

Do i condone it? No, but he went big before he went home.


I agree!


One could argue that he tarnished the reputation of Horizon/Alaska, the Airport, etc. as well as probably hurt the pocket books of some investors.


If hurting pocket books and reputation makes them implement more rules so this doesn't happen again on a wider and more deadly scale then that's all worth it.

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joao01 wrote:
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You can say what you want about the guy, but he went out like a Boss and he didn't hurt anyone else.

Do i condone it? No, but he went big before he went home.


I agree!


One could argue that he tarnished the reputation of Horizon/Alaska, the Airport, etc. as well as probably hurt the pocket books of some investors.


If hurting pocket books and reputation makes them implement more rules so this doesn't happen again on a wider and more deadly scale then that's all worth it.

If it saves just 1 life [emoji3]

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UpDog wrote:
L_O_G wrote:
joao01 wrote:
Massivedesign wrote:
usrifle wrote:
You can say what you want about the guy, but he went out like a Boss and he didn't hurt anyone else.

Do i condone it? No, but he went big before he went home.


I agree!


One could argue that he tarnished the reputation of Horizon/Alaska, the Airport, etc. as well as probably hurt the pocket books of some investors.


If hurting pocket books and reputation makes them implement more rules so this doesn't happen again on a wider and more deadly scale then that's all worth it.[/quote
If it saves just 1 life :)


You need a quick lesson on how to quote? :bigsmile:

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Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:54 am
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L_O_G wrote:
If hurting pocket books and reputation makes them implement more rules so this doesn't happen again on a wider and more deadly scale then that's all worth it.


Sure, more laws. Higher costs. Higher prices.

Someone who is determined can still do it. I've been on airfields for decades ... this isn't that hard to do and others could do it if they really wanted to. The aircraft do not service themselves. If the terrorists were more interested in damage than symbolism, there would be more of these.


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If hurting pocket books and reputation makes them implement more rules so this doesn't happen again on a wider and more deadly scale then that's all worth it.


Sure, more laws. Higher costs. Higher prices.

Someone who is determined can still do it. I've been on airfields for decades ... this isn't that hard to do and others could do it if they really wanted to. The aircraft do not service themselves. If the terrorists were more interested in damage than symbolism, there would be more of these.


My point was if they can close some loopholes because of one guy stealing a plane and offing himself, then that's better for all of us. I have had experience at airports over the years delivering freight, and recently have been working at all the major ports and can tell you the loopholes in security are big enough to really fuck some shit up if someone truly wanted to.

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rodell wrote:
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If hurting pocket books and reputation makes them implement more rules so this doesn't happen again on a wider and more deadly scale then that's all worth it.


Sure, more laws. Higher costs. Higher prices.

Someone who is determined can still do it. I've been on airfields for decades ... this isn't that hard to do and others could do it if they really wanted to. The aircraft do not service themselves. If the terrorists were more interested in damage than symbolism, there would be more of these.


My point was if they can close some loopholes because of one guy stealing a plane and offing himself, then that's better for all of us. I have had experience at airports over the years delivering freight, and recently have been working at all the major ports and can tell you the loopholes in security are big enough to really fuck some shit up if someone truly wanted to.



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so you all want to lock up everything, in the interest of safety.

Having been on the wrong side of the fence, preventing customers from accessing my office for a time............

FUCK, that SHIT.

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so you all want to lock up everything, in the interest of safety.

Having been on the wrong side of the fence, preventing customers from accessing my office for a time............

FUCK, that SHIT.


Good god, did I mention the words "LOCK UP EVERYTHING"?

Reading comprehension is difficult for some apparently.

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I went to KSEA often as a contracted employee, but needed an escort due to not having an ID/Pass/clearance, whatever.

This included driving multiple vehicles on the ramps and taxiways.

Only once was my vehicle inspected, and it was poking a head in and saying 'ok'...

I routinely carried knives/boxcutters/etc in the secure area..... and it would have been child's play to bring a gun in and meet someone in a bathroom to give it to them.

I was close enough to kick tires of aircraft...

Security theatre is a great description.

It was like the curtain being pulled back.....

FYI, if you're in the Delta executive lounge or the 'other' smaller lounge, you can thank me for your soda machine and bar gun.

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I want a gyrocopter.


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so you all want to lock up everything, in the interest of safety.

Having been on the wrong side of the fence, preventing customers from accessing my office for a time............

FUCK, that SHIT.


Good god, did I mention the words "LOCK UP EVERYTHING"?

Reading comprehension is difficult for some apparently.

As is yours. Apparently you think I was responding directly at you. Scroll up. Two other jumped on your bandwagon and expanded on it.

BTW. There are already rules against what happened at Sea-Tac.

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I went to KSEA often as a contracted employee, but needed an escort due to not having an ID/Pass/clearance, whatever.

This included driving multiple vehicles on the ramps and taxiways.

Only once was my vehicle inspected, and it was poking a head in and saying 'ok'...

I routinely carried knives/boxcutters/etc in the secure area..... and it would have been child's play to bring a gun in and meet someone in a bathroom to give it to them.

I was close enough to kick tires of aircraft...

Security theatre is a great description.

It was like the curtain being pulled back.....

FYI, if you're in the Delta executive lounge or the 'other' smaller lounge, you can thank me for your soda machine and bar gun.


Bar gun? Wow, you can buy guns there?

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Rix86 wrote:
I want a gyrocopter.


I want a para motor. Those things are the tits!

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