Good point, but nobody is required to have either of those.

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Uh...the OP released this info...

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Yes! Thank you for posting that. It’ll be interesting f to see how this plays out. You are an FFL?

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We have a member that just retired over there....yours must be the store he's told us about.

Please correct me, but I don't think this letter is even correct in what currently occurs.


True

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Background checks on rifles are conducted by FFL's through the federal e-check system.
Background checks on pistols are conducted by FFL's through the federal e-check system.
Background checks on pistols are additionally conducted by FFL's through the state system.


False. The FFL also conducted a state check, prior to release.


False. It occurs immediately at the point of purchase, prior to release of a firearm.


WTF does our local law have to do with the NICS check? We send a check request, you fulfill it. Our local additional laws are irrelevant, and have no bearing or impact on the federal government fulfilling it's duties.


So, what you really mean, is FFL's in WA state are now unable to process NICS checks for handguns. Under what law do the feds refuse to process these valid checks?

Kevin Baird of the Washington State Patrol claims this bullshit. Well, you are irrelevant. You are nobody. This is the Federal government stating this. You aren't in a position of authority to make this decision. Show me the federal FBI paperwork that states the FBI is refusing to process NICS checks for pistol filed by FFL's and we've got something to discuss.

Also, you're the Information Security Officer? So like...you protect the IT equipment?

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Well, I must say, thank you oh great giver of privileges for the "courtesy" to allow me to prove my innocence pre-emptively in your tax payer funded system...

I didn't see anything about a delay in the email if it switches to a WSP only system. Not clear that it will take longer, but I just don't have enough information on that.

If it's just WA State, it's just one more in a rapidly growing list of reasons to jettison out of here.

In the big scheme this is why people should NEVER support background check laws. They lure us into a system that can be arbitrarily revoked, rescinded, delayed, or increased fees. A right delayed is a right denied.

Thanks for the clarification. Can you expand on it? What parts of the process do I not understand? Why is some guy in the IT department sending this email?

EDIT: Thanks for the edit. So if you don't have a CPL, the FFL doesn't submit an NICS background check? Why not? Are you prohibited from doing so?

Check this out: Washington Background Check Process

So let’s say that the letter is correct, and this process change is happening. What does this mean for the Washington buyer who has a CPL? Can he/she still leave with the handgun on the day of purchase? Or will he/she need to wait just as though they didn’t have a CPL?

Yeah that's exactly what I thought it was. But check out the law. I think this is the applicable section:


It seems to me WA laws state the FFL can directly query the NICS. If the FFL can't, then the chief of police has to.

So I want to see the FBI law that allows them to refuse to process NICS checks.

Too bad it's not like the voting system, where you don't need any proof of who you are. Just walk in and exercise your right, buy a gun, and walk out... hmmmmm....

Maybe a written promise would suffice??

Correct.