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No more same-day handgun transfers for CPL holders
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Site Supporter   Location: Snohomish County Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2012 Posts: 1146 
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snozzberries wrote: Also, you're the Information Security Officer? So like...you protect the IT equipment? ISOs ensure that security policy is documented, implemented, monitored, and current on the systems they are responsible for. They assign the actual labor of these configurations to system and network administrators. |
| Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:05 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: King County Joined: Thu Oct 16, 2014 Posts: 4012
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Did a bit of research, not extensive though. I'd like to find the relevant law still.
https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/nics/about-nics Quote: ...the NICS Section processes background checks for the FFLs in those states that have declined to serve as POCs for the NICS. The FFLs have the following three methods of performing background checks depending upon the state in which the FFL is conducting business: 1. In states where the state government has agreed to serve as the POC for the system, the FFLs contact the NICS through the state POC for all firearm transfers. The state POC conducts the NICS check and determines whether or not the transfer would violate state or federal law. 2. In states where the state government has declined to serve as a POC, the FFLs initiate a NICS background check by contacting the NCCC for all firearm transfers. The FBI conducts the NICS check and determines whether or not the transfer would violate state or federal law. 3. Finally, in states where the state government has agreed to serve as a POC for handgun purchases but not for long gun purchases, the FFLs contact the NICS through the designated state POC for handgun transfers and the NICS Section for long gun transfers. |
| Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:32 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Marysville, WA Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 Posts: 11570 Real Name: Mike
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reginald_burrito wrote: golddigger14s wrote: reginald_burrito wrote: I wonder how that works if you don’t have a driver’s license. State issued ID, Passport. Good point, but nobody is required to have either of those. Firearm purchasers are required to have some form of acceptable ID. FFL is required to certify that the purchaser has properly identified themselves (page 3) Now if I'm an FFL I don't think I'd be putting my signature in this section if someone didn't have a D/L, ID Card, Passport, or other valid government recognized ID. Wonder how things are going to be once the WA D/L (non-enhanced) is no longer valid government recognized ID. I believe you won't be able to use your old license to get on a plane after Oct. 2020. One gov agency will probably follow the other and they won't be good to buy guns with either. I wonder if "enhanced D/L's" are available in Mexico yet?  _________________ "I've learned from the Dog that an afternoon nap is a good thing" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother" - William Shakespeare |
| Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:26 pm |
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Location: KC area Missouri Joined: Sat Sep 10, 2016 Posts: 1666
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Everyone should get the word out on this to every shooter and gun collector. No excuse to vote for any democrat this time around.
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| Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:17 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Deckerville Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2016 Posts: 2964 Real Name: Rob
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Generally NICS checks for CPL holders are exempt so this sounds like feds telling states to stop wasting fed resources.
_________________ “The Democrats are playing you for a political chump and if you vote for them, not only are you a chump, you are a traitor to your race.”-Malcolm X |
| Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:03 pm |
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Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2018 Posts: 9
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This all translates into the end of same day handgun purchases. Its going to REALLY hurt gun shows.
Last edited by Jackal on Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:35 pm, edited 1 time in total. |
| Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:42 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood/Bothell Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2014 Posts: 8688 Real Name: Curtis
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"NICS will no longer extend the courtesy"
Sounds like a federal decision that will apply nationwide. |
| Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:37 pm |
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In Memoriam Joined: Wed Mar 6, 2013 Posts: 12018
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Jackal wrote: This all translates into the end of same day handgun purchases. Its going to REALLY hurt gun shows. ... Yes, this sounds like a real ball buster. I am disappointed at every move that infringes on my fellow citizens' Natural Right to buy, keep and bear arms and ammunition. |
| Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:42 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Apple Country! Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2012 Posts: 4575 Real Name: J
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Ace wrote: Everyone should get the word out on this to every shooter and gun collector. No excuse to vote for any democrat this time around. Is Brian Hatfield not up for reelection this year? Is there a reason any of us here wouldnt vote for him? This is all news to me. Seems like the SBR bullshit all over again. _________________ "Guns are dangerous." -Massivedesign |
| Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:19 am |
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Site Supporter / FFL Dealer  Location: Lake Andes, S. Dakota Joined: Thu Aug 8, 2013 Posts: 1290 Real Name: Mark
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And still, no word from BATFE...
_________________ "To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." - Thomas Jefferson |
| Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:48 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Apple Country! Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2012 Posts: 4575 Real Name: J
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3584ELK wrote: And still, no word from BATFE... Why would the ATF be involved? NICS is FBI. Now, our wonderful AG could write a simple letter to the BATFECES and it would allow us to use Box 23 on the 4473s, and we could just not have to bother the FBI at all... _________________ "Guns are dangerous." -Massivedesign |
| Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:47 am |
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root wrote: 3584ELK wrote: And still, no word from BATFE... Why would the ATF be involved? NICS is FBI. Now, our wonderful AG could write a simple letter to the BATFECES and it would allow us to use Box 23 on the 4473s, and we could just not have to bother the FBI at all... Tempted to move this post. Hmmm. viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2292 |
| Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:57 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Snohomish, WA Joined: Thu Jan 26, 2012 Posts: 1402 Real Name: Bo
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root wrote: 3584ELK wrote: And still, no word from BATFE... Not following on the Box 23 comment, please explain. Quote: Questions 22 and 23. Transfer on a Different Day and Recertification: If the transfer takes place on a different day from the date that the transferee/buyer signed Section A, the licensee must again check the photo identification of the transferee/buyer at the time of transfer. _________________ "I don't know what it's called. I just know the sound it makes, when it takes a man's life." ~ Four Leaf Tayback |
| Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:58 am |
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In Memoriam Joined: Wed Mar 6, 2013 Posts: 12018
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I was just running with Box 21ish. And the humor is our AG doing ANYthing in favor of our rights.
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| Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:03 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Apple Country! Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2012 Posts: 4575 Real Name: J
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PMB wrote: I was just running with Box 21ish. And the humor is our AG doing ANYthing in favor of our rights. Damn new form... Forgot it moved to 21. _________________ "Guns are dangerous." -Massivedesign |
| Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:09 pm |
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