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Col_Temp
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Location: Lake Stevens Joined: Fri Jan 3, 2014 Posts: 6780
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Found this article to be very interesting and a great reminder. Recommend to everyone. https://preparednessadvice.com/security/dangerous-human-nature/?fbclid=IwAR3hr6wkp0YQrxN8aTup3QUeJM_FevJ8t6cK2CmWDNH1_xwbzVtRfBf8dko#.V_Uvu-ArLb0Giving credit, one of my Facebook friends posted this to a preparedness group I am a part of. It has good points about preparedness AS well as understanding criminal behavior. Quote: This is what most folks don’t understand about serious criminals. The fact that the victim of the crime would be affected in a negative manner is not even an afterthought. Your feelings and concerns mean absolutely NOTHING to the criminal. He doesn’t care if you live or die, ... Unfortunately, the majority of the hard core criminals I encounter feel the same way. You are literally nothing more than an obstacle they must overcome to achieve their goal. I had never really thought of it exactly that way but he is absolutely correct. As such our responses should consider and take that into account. Part of what makes them criminals are the fact that they are out doing this because they really only care about themselves. Quote: Harden anything the criminal might target ... and make everything and yourself look undesirable Good advice! Remember most criminals are lazy. Give them an easy target and they will most often go for it. Kind of hard on the easy target but get you out of the cross hairs! And until there are consequences for behavior and restitution things are not going to change much.
_________________ Paris You can never be too prepared. Consider the ant thou sluggard. Proverbs 27:12 -- “A prudent person foresees the danger ahead and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.” Need Long-term Food or Survival Supplies, I have extras. Please message me for more info. The open share is no longer available.
The prudent Wagunner trains and prepares to defend themselves and their families, friends, and neighbors. They also are prepared to feed, shelter, and provide aid as well. Danger is coming and may already be here, how prepared are you? Click the link above for lots of good info to get started.
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quantsuff
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Location: central wa Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2011 Posts: 3573
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Predators look for prey, so prepare/practicr not looking like prey, and don't go where prey goes at the "bad times of day/month."
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sportsdad60
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Location: The banana belt of MT Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2015 Posts: 8703
Real Name: Brian
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When it comes to home, 3 layers of defense, minimum.
_________________ "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."- Hunter S. Thompson
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Wetpaperbag
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Location: olympia Joined: Sat Sep 21, 2013 Posts: 3795
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sportsdad60 wrote: When it comes to home, 3 layers of defense, minimum. Those are the same number of minimum layers for tin foil hats.
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os2firefox
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Location: Idaho (pending) Joined: Sat Aug 4, 2012 Posts: 2824
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Wetpaperbag wrote: sportsdad60 wrote: When it comes to home, 3 layers of defense, minimum. Those are the same number of minimum layers for tin foil hats. My pans are also coated in the same number of layers of nonstick stuff.
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old11bravo
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Location: Everett Joined: Mon Apr 22, 2013 Posts: 3420
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Col_Temp wrote: Found this article to be very interesting and a great reminder. Recommend to everyone. https://preparednessadvice.com/security/dangerous-human-nature/?fbclid=IwAR3hr6wkp0YQrxN8aTup3QUeJM_FevJ8t6cK2CmWDNH1_xwbzVtRfBf8dko#.V_Uvu-ArLb0Giving credit, one of my Facebook friends posted this to a preparedness group I am a part of. It has good points about preparedness AS well as understanding criminal behavior. Quote: This is what most folks don’t understand about serious criminals. The fact that the victim of the crime would be affected in a negative manner is not even an afterthought. Your feelings and concerns mean absolutely NOTHING to the criminal. He doesn’t care if you live or die, ... Unfortunately, the majority of the hard core criminals I encounter feel the same way. You are literally nothing more than an obstacle they must overcome to achieve their goal. I had never really thought of it exactly that way but he is absolutely correct. As such our responses should consider and take that into account. Part of what makes them criminals are the fact that they are out doing this because they really only care about themselves. Quote: Harden anything the criminal might target ... and make everything and yourself look undesirable Good advice! Remember most criminals are lazy. Give them an easy target and they will most often go for it. Kind of hard on the easy target but get you out of the cross hairs! And until there are consequences for behavior and restitution things are not going to change much. The type of criminal the article describes is usually an indication of a sociopath, otherwise known as a psychopath. One that is void of moral compass, empathy or caring for the well being of any other individual. There are many, many (in fact the majority) of felons and criminals that are actually not sociopaths. I don't have the exact numbers or statistics, but as someone that works closely and surrounded by convicted felons and criminals every day, I can say that many commit crime due to external factors. The external factors that could possibly drive the criminal behavior are too numerous to list in this response but my point is that it would be misleading to say that every felon or criminal exhibits the sociopathic behavior described in the article. Additionally I believe that categorizing any and/or all criminals as "lazy" would be a dangerous assumption. I would call the criminals and predators of the world opportunistic more than anything else. Yes, they will observe, identify and seek out the weakest of any group, security practice or defense mechanism but that is not lazy, that is smart and in line with the thinking of self preservation. There are a high number of criminals that I would venture to call very industrious. I'm not taking away from the many good pointers in the article but I am pointing out that it does perpetuate many fallacies about the often violent people that covet and would seek to separate us from the nice things we've worked hard to achieve. Be vigilant, avoid complacency and don't try to box all of our would be predatory entities into one tidy little package because these criminals are made in many different molds and hide behind many different facades.
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 19173
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Sociopaths and psychopaths are not the same.
_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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SporkBoy
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Location: Deckerville Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2016 Posts: 2964
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Just remember in any encounter with a criminal you are not their first victem but possibly one of hundreds.
_________________ “The Democrats are playing you for a political chump and if you vote for them, not only are you a chump, you are a traitor to your race.”-Malcolm X
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Col_Temp
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Location: Lake Stevens Joined: Fri Jan 3, 2014 Posts: 6780
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Quote: Additionally I believe that categorizing any and/or all criminals as "lazy" would be a dangerous assumption. I would call the criminals and predators of the world opportunistic more than anything else. Yes, they will observe, identify and seek out the weakest of any group, security practice or defense mechanism but that is not lazy, that is smart and in line with the thinking of self preservation. There are a high number of criminals that I would venture to call very industrious. Ron, I agree. I used the word lazy not in they are lazy but describing how they make there choices. Looking for the easiest target exactly as you described. I get your point about those without a moral compass and yes they will have no feelings, but inherently the criminal is not thinking about anything other than himself at the end. While not all criminals will have no thought to the victim at the end the thought of what I want or think I need out ways all other considerations. Having worked similar to you, yes there are external factors but all of them lead the criminal to choose his needs over that of the victim. Hence the need for situational awareness and realizing that there is indeed no nice little box to lump them into.
_________________ Paris You can never be too prepared. Consider the ant thou sluggard. Proverbs 27:12 -- “A prudent person foresees the danger ahead and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.” Need Long-term Food or Survival Supplies, I have extras. Please message me for more info. The open share is no longer available.
The prudent Wagunner trains and prepares to defend themselves and their families, friends, and neighbors. They also are prepared to feed, shelter, and provide aid as well. Danger is coming and may already be here, how prepared are you? Click the link above for lots of good info to get started.
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 19173
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Lazy? No. Opportunistic? Yes.
Work smarter, not harder.
Remember.. Every criminal thinks they're not gonna get caught.
_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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old11bravo
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Location: Everett Joined: Mon Apr 22, 2013 Posts: 3420
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TechnoWeenie wrote: Sociopaths and psychopaths are not the same. No, not exactly alike but very much similar conditions with many common symptoms/indicators. Generally speaking psychopathy being considered the more severe form of sociopathy. Psychopath vs. Sociopath: What’s the Difference? https://www.healthyplace.com/personality-disorders/psychopath/psychopath-vs-sociopath-what-s-the-differenceHealthyplace wrote: Psychopath vs. Sociopath Psychopathy can be thought of as a more severe form of sociopathy with more symptoms. Therefore, all psychopaths are sociopaths but sociopaths are not necessarily psychopaths.
According to the Society for the Study of Psychopathy, psychopath traits include:
Lack of guilt/remorse Lack of empathy Lack of deep emotional attachments Narcissism Superficial charm Dishonesty Manipulativeness Reckless risk-taking Moreover, approximately 93% of psychopaths are in the criminal justice system.
Additional psychopath traits have been identified and more on these can be found in the article, Does a Psychopath Test Exist? Diagnosing the Psychopath.
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Capn Blood
Location: On your six Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2018 Posts: 873
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Learned this long ago. Trained for this with and without weapons and now the scum can sense it and steer clear
Predators do not want to clash with a superior predator
One more thing: See it coming
_________________ Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt the Younger
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deadshot2
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Location: Marysville, WA Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 Posts: 11570
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old11bravo wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: Sociopaths and psychopaths are not the same. No, not exactly alike but very much similar conditions with many common symptoms/indicators. Generally speaking psychopathy being considered the more severe form of sociopathy. Psychopath vs. Sociopath: What’s the Difference? https://www.healthyplace.com/personality-disorders/psychopath/psychopath-vs-sociopath-what-s-the-differenceHealthyplace wrote: Psychopath vs. Sociopath Psychopathy can be thought of as a more severe form of sociopathy with more symptoms. Therefore, all psychopaths are sociopaths but sociopaths are not necessarily psychopaths.
According to the Society for the Study of Psychopathy, psychopath traits include:
Lack of guilt/remorse Lack of empathy Lack of deep emotional attachments Narcissism Superficial charm Dishonesty Manipulativeness Reckless risk-taking Moreover, approximately 93% of psychopaths are in the criminal justice system.
Additional psychopath traits have been identified and more on these can be found in the article, Does a Psychopath Test Exist? Diagnosing the Psychopath. It would seem to me that these traits could also be found in our political leaders at all levels of government. 
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hkcavalier
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Location: NE WA Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 Posts: 5667
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deadshot2 wrote: It would seem to me that these traits could also be found in our political leaders at all levels of government.  There have been lots of studies that have shown sociopaths are attracted to positions of power and influence. They also don't care who they step on or double-cross to get there, which makes the journey up the proverbial ladder a lot easier.
_________________ "Wherever you go, there you are."
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old11bravo
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deadshot2 wrote: It would seem to me that these traits could also be found in our political leaders at all levels of government.  True enough to be scary!
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