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deadshot2
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Location: Marysville, WA Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 Posts: 11570
Real Name: Mike
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cityslicker wrote: Up to 11 pounds of ammo are allowed. That's why I don't fly with guns. My last shooting trip I had one bag weighing 58 lbs and that was just the rifle ammo. Pistol was another 15 more. No check in, no declaration form, no inspection. Might have to explain all the weapons and ammo to some highway patrol officer if I got stopped but in 4,000 miles, didn't happen. Damn, retirement is sure nice. No more #$$%ing airports 
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| Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:14 am |
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Caveman Jim
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Location: In my Cave near the Cloquallum Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2013 Posts: 8512
Real Name: Jim Sr.
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Whatever you do, follow the requirements of the airline you are flying to a T. A few years ago I flew Frontier Airlines, I went to their website and copied the wordage and prepared the gun, magazines & ammo to their liking. What was weird was they required you to either unload your magazines or if loaded Place tape on top of the bullet. LOL
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| Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:09 am |
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8612
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NWGunner wrote: dreadi wrote: Give me a call tomorrow. everybody? I don't get it. 
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| Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:23 am |
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lamrith
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Location: Tacoma/Puyallup Joined: Tue May 8, 2012 Posts: 4330
Real Name: Larry
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Caveman Jim wrote: Whatever you do, follow the requirements of the airline you are flying to a T. A few years ago I flew Frontier Airlines, I went to their website and copied the wordage and prepared the gun, magazines & ammo to their liking. What was weird was they required you to either unload your magazines or if loaded Place tape on top of the bullet. LOL Flying southwest, they are really good and make a good revenue on sporting goods type folks. Some of the best baggage policies of any airline around. Quote: Guns & Ammunition
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Customers are responsible for knowing and following the firearms laws of the state(s) that they will be traveling to, from, and through. Our Customers must declare the gun to the Customer Service Agent at the ticket counter (no firearms will be accepted curbside) and ensure that the firearm(s) chambers are free of ammunition and the magazine clip has been removed (when applicable). Paintball guns and BB guns are considered the same as all other firearms. Paintball guns are allowed in checked baggage and are not subject to the container requirements of firearms. Customers must declare the paintball gun to the Customer Service Agent at the ticket counter. Compressed gas cylinders are allowed in checked baggage or as a carryon only if the regulator valve is completely disconnected from the cylinder and the cylinder is no longer sealed (i.e., the cylinder has an open end). TSA Security Screeners must visibly ensure that the cylinder is completely empty and that there are no prohibited items inside. Firearms must be encased in a hard-sided, locked container that is of sufficient strength to withstand normal handling, as follows: A firearm in a hard-sided, locked container may be placed inside a soft-sided, unlocked suitcase. A firearm placed inside a hard-sided, locked suitcase does not have to be encased in a container manufactured for the transportation of firearms. The locked container or suitcase must completely secure the firearm from access. Cases or suitcases that can be pulled open with minimal effort do not meet the locked criterion. Only the Customer checking the luggage should retain the key or combination to the lock. No exceptions will be made. Firearms may be checked and will count toward the two-piece free baggage allowance for each fare-paying passenger. We allow multiple firearms to be transported inside one hard-sided case. Southwest Airlines assumes no liability for the misalignment of sights on firearms, including those equipped with telescopic sights. Firearms are never allowed in carryon luggage. Ammunition
Small arms ammunition for personal use (provided it is properly packed) is permissible in checked baggage only. The ammunition may be placed in the same container as the firearm and must be securely packed in cardboard (fiber), wood, or metal boxes, or other packaging specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition. When checking ammunition, Customers are limited to 11 pounds gross weight (ammunition plus container) per person. Magazines or clips containing ammunition must be securely packaged (placed in another small box or in a secure cutout in the carrying case, in order to protect the primer of the ammunition). Make sure guns are unloaded and definitely never transport a gun in your carryon baggage! Gunpowder (black powder) and primers or percussion caps are not allowed in checked or carryon baggage. Loose ammunition or loose loaded magazines and/or clips are not allowed. Paintballs must be packaged in a leak-proof container and will be conditionally accepted.
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 18058
Real Name: Chuck
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Capn Blood wrote: oldkim wrote: Please be aware where you are flying to and any connecting flights.
Firearm and ammo are covered by FAA (airlines) and be aware of magazine types (capacity). FOPA is supposed to protect you when traveling directly through restrictive states... Supposed to, but I've heard a couple of horror stories of people that were supposed to continue on, but had their flight delayed/cancelled in NJ or some other anti-gun place.
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| Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:11 pm |
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oldkim
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Location: Maple Valley, WA Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 9428
Real Name: Young
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NJ and/or DC
Just for having “high magazine” Will make your vacation trip a nightmare.
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| Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:24 pm |
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funugy
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Location: Whidbey Is Joined: Fri Sep 20, 2013 Posts: 172
Real Name: James
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Flew SeaTac to Detroit and back at the middle of June with several others carrying too. easy day. SeaTac declared the firearm at the baggage check. They gave me a form to fill out and put one copy in the case. I just cracked open the case and slid it in. Had to unlock and pry open the edge to slide the slip in. Went to the TSA check and they did a swab test, looked at my form and ticket I think. They take the case from there. Had to get the gun case from the oversize luggage area and no one was around so I just grabbed my case and left.
Leaving Detroit was a bit slower as I had to wait about 15 minutes for the TSA guy. He had me put the case on a counter and open it up for him to look. He said his swab machine wasn't working so he had to look. He didn't touch the firearm just the padding around it. Kinda probing around. He saw my full magazine and asked if the chamber was clear. He said make sure there are no loose rounds when I travel because it isn't allowed. Luckily I stuffed my 1 loose round deep between the foam perforations and he didn't see or care about it. I asked him what would happen if I did have a loose round. He said if there was a loose round he would make me remove it and walk outside to dispose of it. He said he wouldn't care how I got rid of it but couldn't transport it loose in the case was all he cared about. Not his rules, just how he delt with it.
At SeaTac the pickup required I'd and my claim ticket.
At both ends the TSA guys were cool and didn't hassle me or my friends at all.
Like I said....easy day.
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Selador
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Location: Index Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 Posts: 12955
Real Name: Jeff
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What is this 'swab test'?
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| Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:19 pm |
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oldkim
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Location: Maple Valley, WA Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 9428
Real Name: Young
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Explosive residue.
Basically they will take a patch and rub certain parts of your luggage or your hands and run it through their spectrometer and see if there is anything that triggers.
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Selador
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Location: Index Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 Posts: 12955
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oldkim wrote: Explosive residue.
Basically they will take a patch and rub certain parts of your luggage or your hands and run it through their spectrometer and see if there is anything that triggers. Thank you. So if you had the case with you at the range, you'd better strip it and put it through the dishwasher before you do this? 
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lamrith
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Location: Tacoma/Puyallup Joined: Tue May 8, 2012 Posts: 4330
Real Name: Larry
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oldkim wrote: Explosive residue.
Basically they will take a patch and rub certain parts of your luggage or your hands and run it through their spectrometer and see if there is anything that triggers. Which I find just extremely funny that they require it for every check bag with a firearm in it, like gun ownership means we are working with explosives or a higher risk for it?
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lamrith
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Location: Tacoma/Puyallup Joined: Tue May 8, 2012 Posts: 4330
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Selador wrote: oldkim wrote: Explosive residue.
Basically they will take a patch and rub certain parts of your luggage or your hands and run it through their spectrometer and see if there is anything that triggers. Thank you. So if you had the case with you at the range, you'd better strip it and put it through the dishwasher before you do this?  No it is looking for active ingredients. (I cannot recal the specific term) I have flown on July5th after shooting a show, in the same jacket and shoes and both passed a random swap test with no issue.
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deadshot2
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Location: Marysville, WA Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 Posts: 11570
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lamrith wrote: oldkim wrote: Explosive residue.
Basically they will take a patch and rub certain parts of your luggage or your hands and run it through their spectrometer and see if there is anything that triggers. Which I find just extremely funny that they require it for every check bag with a firearm in it, like gun ownership means we are working with explosives or a higher risk for it? Sounds funny to me too. What doe they expect to find. I'd be surprised if they didn't find residue that triggers their machine. On that note I ran into a WSP K-9 trooper in Cabelas not long ago. I jokingly asked "where's the pup?". He said he had to leave him in the car as he'd be "Indicating" on the entire ammo department. On that last note, I guess I need to "sanitize" my car if I take it on the ferry. I usually have 20-30# of ammo along with a couple rifles with me.
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Guns4Liberty
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Location: Lynnwood/Bothell Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2014 Posts: 8688
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deadshot2 wrote: On that last note, I guess I need to "sanitize" my car if I take it on the ferry. I usually have 20-30# of ammo along with a couple rifles with me. I occasionally take large amounts of guns and ammo on the ferry, and I've never once had a K-9 indicate that there was something worth investigating in with my vehicle (I'd say 7 out of 10 times I'm in the waiting area, the K-9 officer walks past). I have a feeling they're not trained to hit on "regular" gunpowder; otherwise, it would be a shitshow.
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lamrith
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Location: Tacoma/Puyallup Joined: Tue May 8, 2012 Posts: 4330
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Went thru easy breezy. TSA agent was chill and the station is still up front so nobody has case behind locked doors with key. He did do a quick visual check that ammo was secure before having me place the declaration in the case and securing with locks. Actual huge thanks to the TSA agent. HE caught that the ticketing agent had not attached the baggage tag to the case. I hustled back and got the baggage tag from ticketing agent and was on my way. OMG wtf with the security checkpoints this morning. The middle and bussiest one looks like it was closed? 8:50am and saw huge line as I approached. looked over everyone and all desks were staffed with TSA agents but the end of line was roped off not allowing anyone thr. line zigzagged thru that whole area, then over and out to the front where ticketing is.. yeah NOT. I hustled down to checkpoint 1 for the A gates then looped back, still took 45min.
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