Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:29 pm
Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:30 pm
Alpine wrote:His editing is pointless, his posts are quoted all over...
Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:31 pm
Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:34 pm
MadPick wrote:Well, I'm gonna say this.
Most of us here agree, politically, on most issues. At the very least, we can usually agree on which gubernatorial or presidential candidate we want. So when you have a fellow gun owner who disagrees, what's the goal you're trying to achieve when you're exchanging posts?
Is it a) to change his/her mind, or b) to drive him/her away, and off of WaGuns and out of the community?
Some of you seem to go for a), which I think is commendable. Good discussion is, well, good. Many of you here were just outright assholes, though, and b) seems to be your goal.
What the hell does that achieve? Did it change his mind? Did it bring you closer to, or farther away from, the possibility of changing his mind?
I don't feel like this was one of WaGuns' finer moments.
Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:35 pm
MadPick wrote:Well, I'm gonna say this.
Most of us here agree, politically, on most issues. At the very least, we can usually agree on which gubernatorial or presidential candidate we want. So when you have a fellow gun owner who disagrees, what's the goal you're trying to achieve when you're exchanging posts?
Is it a) to change his/her mind, or b) to drive him/her away, and off of WaGuns and out of the community?
Some of you seem to go for a), which I think is commendable. Good discussion is, well, good. Many of you here were just outright assholes, though, and b) seems to be your goal.
What the hell does that achieve? Did it change his mind? Did it bring you closer to, or farther away from, the possibility of changing his mind?
I don't feel like this was one of WaGuns' finer moments.
Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:40 pm
Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:54 pm
Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:12 pm
RocketScott wrote:He posted a lot of falsehoods. In stead of mocking him many of us posted proof that was contrary to what he was saying or had intelligent questions in response (that he wouldn't answer). That made no impact, we were still a bunch of yokels
RocketScott wrote:It quickly became clear that he was just here to troll and illicit a response
RocketScott wrote:Want me to go talk to him?
Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:15 pm
Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:26 pm
MadPick wrote:RocketScott wrote:He posted a lot of falsehoods. In stead of mocking him many of us posted proof that was contrary to what he was saying or had intelligent questions in response (that he wouldn't answer). That made no impact, we were still a bunch of yokels
Yes, I agree, there was a lot of good discussion as well. I'm not arguing that; in fact, some of you went above and beyond to bring the facts and data, and that is awesome.RocketScott wrote:It quickly became clear that he was just here to troll and illicit a response
Well, I don't like the word "troll" much, I think it means different things to different people. Are we trolling when we say, "Fuck Hillary, I hope COVID gets her" or something similar? If so, many of us are trolls. It's easy to use it as an easy slur against someone on the other side, I do know that.RocketScott wrote:Want me to go talk to him?
No, I don't think we need anyone to go talk to him. He's not banned, he's probably reading all of these posts. Maybe he really did "take his ball and go home." Or maybe he's just starting over? Who knows.
Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:28 pm
Arisaka wrote:He came on here Day 1 with an attitude that we were all ignorant beyond belief, and he was grudgingly required to educate us via insults and snarky comments. I was sick of his shit in short order. Not to put too fine a point on it, but Fuck him.
Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:31 pm
spaghetti monster wrote:So what is your definition of a troll then?
Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:33 pm
MadPick wrote:spaghetti monster wrote:So what is your definition of a troll then?
My definition? Someone who's just here to stir shit and get people riled up. That is their SOLE purpose.
Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:36 pm
MadPick wrote:RocketScott wrote:It quickly became clear that he was just here to troll and illicit a response
Well, I don't like the word "troll" much, I think it means different things to different people. Are we trolling when we say, "Fuck Hillary, I hope COVID gets her" or something similar? If so, many of us are trolls. It's easy to use it as an easy slur against someone on the other side, I do know that.
In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts flame wars or intentionally upsets people on the Internet by posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion,[3] either for the troll's amusement or a specific gain.
Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:41 pm
spaghetti monster wrote:MadPick wrote:spaghetti monster wrote:So what is your definition of a troll then?
My definition? Someone who's just here to stir shit and get people riled up. That is their SOLE purpose.
And you disagree that was what derrickito was doing?