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WH Press Pool - Callin out Bull.
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Guns4Liberty
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I think it's fair to say it was "doctored" in that it was edited for dramatic effect in an effort to imply that what happened was worse than it really was. It wasn't doctored in the way that NBC intentionally edited the George Zimmerman audio to make him sound like a huge racist. But it wasn't necessary to do anything with the Acosta video other than just let it play and show how much of a whiny child he is. And saying that he touched her is true, but it was incidental contact, and he did say "excuse me, ma'am" (something that was also left off the edited clip), so it's not like he was being aggressive toward her like the edited video is trying to suggest. The WH should have just said, "Acosta can come back from timeout when he starts acting like an adult", and left it at that. Bringing the intern into this is unnecessarily dramatic, IMHO.
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root
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Alpine wrote: Also when she was trying to get the mic back he shouldn't have resisted. It wasn't his property and she was the acting representative of the facility carrying out the employer's wishes. His physical resistance was a mild form of assault. This is the definition of a snowflake then. I thought snowflakes were bad? Alpine wrote: I'm not saying he brutally abused her or assaulted her really. I guess that's Up For Debate although I don't really think that it was particularly violent from looking at it. However I don't think the other video is doctored either.
Doctoring is when you rearrange the video or start splicing audio together or video together to make something totally different than what happened. Enhancing video is a part of normal forensic analysis this is the kind of stuff that you see in courtrooms or police Labs. You may not like it but it's not doctored. They didn't enhance. They muddled and zoomed for intent. And removed audio. I mean, that is pretty much altering video. Not a good thing to do. Guns4Liberty wrote: I think it's fair to say it was "doctored" in that it was edited for dramatic effect in an effort to imply that what happened was worse than it really was. It wasn't doctored in the way that NBC intentionally edited the George Zimmerman audio to make him sound like a huge racist. But it wasn't necessary to do anything with the Acosta video other than just let it play and show how much of a whiny child he is. And saying that he touched her is true, but it was incidental contact, and he did say "excuse me, ma'am" (something that was also left off the edited clip), so it's not like he was being aggressive toward her like the edited video is trying to suggest. The WH should have just said, "Acosta can come back from timeout when he starts acting like an adult", and left it at that. Bringing the intern into this is unnecessarily dramatic, IMHO. Exactly. "Go get that mic." Dude, what? Just turn it off. I know damn well we got the budget for at least 2 mics. Its a bunch of chickenshit child like screaming, that was doubled down on.
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Sinus211
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I don't know about you but if my dad saw me treat a woman like that he would whoop my ass
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Alpine
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Muddled?
Zoom and slow = enhance. Ask any forensics expert.
Removing audio is also a form of enhancement to remove distracting inputs to allow better focus on remaining content.
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L_O_G
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Sinus211 wrote: I don't know about you but if my dad saw me treat a woman like that be would whoop my ass Yup, and if that was my Daughter there would be hell to pay.
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reginald_burrito
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The us-vs-them over here is astounding.
Divided we fall.
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UpDog
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Who kares who started what first and shit.
Gotta say "placing hands on a young woman" and seeing the video I thought I missed something.
Reading some of the responses in this thread make me think some of yall need to get a real job.
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UpDog
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Please observe this video for a true definition of "placing hands on a young woman: https://youtu.be/3GmkaT4KYYs
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root
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Sinus211 wrote: I don't know about you but if my dad saw me treat a woman like that be would whoop my ass Your father beat you for the back of your hand bushing up against people when they lean into you? Wow. I am sorry man. Alpine wrote: Muddled?
Zoom and slow = enhance. Ask any forensics expert.
Removing audio is also a form of enhancement to remove distracting inputs to allow better focus on remaining content. Literally am one. By lowering the quality and dragging out the compression you pad your tween frames, making the contact seem longer than it actually was. There was nothing to slow down, without trying to make it out to be more than it was. You are structuring your evidence for a narrative by removing context and playing it back over and over again. Hell, at a point the SPED IT UP so it looks like more forceful contact. Its basic leading the Jury to see what you want them to. This is 101 stuff. L_O_G wrote: Sinus211 wrote: I don't know about you but if my dad saw me treat a woman like that be would whoop my ass Yup, and if that was my Daughter there would be hell to pay. You might want to see someone about that.
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L_O_G
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root wrote: Sinus211 wrote: I don't know about you but if my dad saw me treat a woman like that be would whoop my ass Your father beat you for the back of your hand bushing up against people when they lean into you? Wow. I am sorry man. Alpine wrote: Muddled?
Zoom and slow = enhance. Ask any forensics expert.
Removing audio is also a form of enhancement to remove distracting inputs to allow better focus on remaining content. Literally am one. By lowering the quality and dragging out the compression you pad your tween frames, making the contact seem longer than it actually was. There was nothing to slow down, without trying to make it out to be more than it was. You are structuring your evidence for a narrative by removing context and playing it back over and over again. This is 101 stuff. L_O_G wrote: Sinus211 wrote: I don't know about you but if my dad saw me treat a woman like that be would whoop my ass Yup, and if that was my Daughter there would be hell to pay. You might want to see someone about that. Ya I would, id see the guy who did it.
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Alpine
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Was anything added? No.
Was anything removed in terms of frames cut between other frames? No. They didn't skip from one time index to another.
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root
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L_O_G wrote:
Ya I would, id see the guy who did it.
So you would physically assault someone, who did not assault your daughter... For incidentally touching her, while apologizing to her for it? That seems to me, as not exactly a great reaction to incidental contact.
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L_O_G
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Who said anything about assault. I said hell to pay, is that your definition of assault?
You seem like the one with the temper, 4 pages in of rage typing by you over the treatment of a CNN reporter.
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root
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L_O_G wrote: Who said anything about assault. I said hell to pay, is that your definition of assault?
You seem like the one with the temper, 4 pages in of rage typing by you over the treatment of a CNN reporter. It has nothing to do with that. Now you are just trying to derail this back to him. As for Assault, sorry I was just taking the context. Sinus said that his dad would beat him for that. Then you agreed and said hell to pay. Mea Culpa on that, I applied the wrong context then. What exactly would be hell to pay? "Hey guy. Don't do that." I guess my idea of "hell" is a bit darker than that. So, did the girl get assaulted or not?
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Selador
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Root, I don't like what seems like 'piling on', no matter who it is. As I said earlier, I understand, and it will be ok. That said, it kind of looks like you called for it, and you continue to do so. Let me state what it is that I see, here. You have worked yourself into a lather over something barely worth notice. You want me to work myself into a lather over it the same way you have. "Justice" would have it no other way. Yet, of the literally hundreds of times that the MSM has ACTUALLY doctored video and audio, over the time that you and I have been members of this forum, I can't recall a single time that you ever worked yourself into a lather over those heinously worse examples. Son, I don't think you have a leg to stand on. Not any basis whatever to complain. Go find some other molehill to make a mountain out of.
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