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RIP Bumpstocks - Thanks Trump!
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Site Supporter   Location: Can't say Joined: Sun Sep 7, 2014 Posts: 8134 
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As a gun owner and life long member of the NRA, I'm mixed on this. I'm also mad as hell for the NRA and Trump to cave on this issue.
I feel very betrayed by the NRA. VERY betrayed. And betrayed by Trump. I am and continue to be an ardent Trump supporter, but admit I'm fuming mad about this betrayal as well. A total broken promise. But the NRA and Trump are our biggest advocates. What do we do??? What do we do when our friends sell us out??? * Note, I've never fired, held, or owned a bump stock and see them as a relatively useless and impractical novelty but one that must be protected. It's really a terrible precedent that just because 1 human did something really bad with bumpstocks then the law is ignored and entire classes of items are banned without any real due process or change in the law... _________________ I defend the 2A. US Army Combat Veteran and Paratrooper: OIF Veteran. BSM and MSM recipient. NRA Lifetime. Entertainment purposes only. I'm a lawyer, but have not offered you legal advice. |
| Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:26 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Apple Country! Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2012 Posts: 4578 Real Name: J
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golddigger14s wrote: Here's a what if monkey wrench. Are gatling guns going to get reclassed also? No, this is specifically bumpstocks and not other rate increasing devices... For now. leadcounsel wrote: As a gun owner and life long member of the NRA, I'm mixed on this. I'm also mad as hell for the NRA and Trump to cave on this issue. I feel very betrayed by the NRA. VERY betrayed. And betrayed by Trump. I am and continue to be an ardent Trump supporter, but admit I'm fuming mad about this betrayal as well. A total broken promise. But the NRA and Trump are our biggest advocates. What do we do??? What do we do when our friends sell us out??? * Note, I've never fired, held, or owned a bump stock and see them as a relatively useless and impractical novelty but one that must be protected. It's really a terrible precedent that just because 1 human did something really bad with bumpstocks then the law is ignored and entire classes of items are banned without any real due process or change in the law... I am not sure what there is to feel "Mixed" about? This is a bright line change and a slip down the slope. What possible "mixing" of feelings could there be? _________________ "Guns are dangerous." -Massivedesign |
| Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:24 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Mohave Valley Arizona Joined: Fri May 20, 2011 Posts: 13371 Real Name: Casey
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not good, but do you think it would be better under Hillary??????????
_________________ Actor portrayal, Action figures sold separately, You must be at least this tall to ride, Individual results may vary, Sales tax not included, All models are over 18 years of age, upon approval of credit, Quantities are limited while supplies last, Some restrictions apply, Not available with other offers, At participating locations only, Void where prohibited, Above terms subject to change without notice, Patent pending. See my blog: http://tincanbandit.blogspot.com/ |
| Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:34 pm |
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Site Supporter  Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2012 Posts: 7649
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Is the NRA really ok with this? I thought they were going to sue to block this last time I checked. Did they change their minds?
_________________ If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/ Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738 Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them" |
| Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:42 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Apple Country! Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2012 Posts: 4578 Real Name: J
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Alpine wrote: Is the NRA really ok with this? I thought they were going to sue to block this last time I checked. Did they change their minds? The NRA WANTED this. Asked for it. Demanded it. TINCANBANDIT wrote: not good, but do you think it would be better under Hillary?????????? Never should have been Trump V Hillary. Never said it would have been better under her. _________________ "Guns are dangerous." -Massivedesign |
| Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:46 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood/Bothell Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2014 Posts: 8562 Real Name: Curtis
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Alpine wrote: Is the NRA really ok with this? I thought they were going to sue to block this last time I checked. Did they change their minds? This was their official statement:  They sound very OK with it to me. |
| Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:28 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Skagit county Joined: Sat Apr 21, 2012 Posts: 1389 Real Name: Dave
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https://babylonbee.com/news/tragic-every-single-bump-stock-in-nation-suddenly-lost-in-boating-accident?fbclid=IwAR2DOaiTdM5UNmjglq9TC6XTtk2Xp7zENnXONaefEd2uZmoZbdEtu4_64DM
In the News...massive boating accidents cause the lose of Bumpstocks...lol _________________ kf7mjf wrote: WaGuns Clue. It was a Night Op in the library with an AK Pistol by TW... |
| Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:53 pm |
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Site Supporter Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2012 Posts: 7649
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root wrote: Alpine wrote: Is the NRA really ok with this? I thought they were going to sue to block this last time I checked. Did they change their minds? The NRA WANTED this. Asked for it. Demanded it. TINCANBANDIT wrote: not good, but do you think it would be better under Hillary?????????? Never should have been Trump V Hillary. Never said it would have been better under her. No they didn't. They just released a statement saying they disagreed with this and they may sue. FPC has already started a lawsuit and GOA and NRA are soon to follow. _________________ If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/ Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738 Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them" |
| Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:02 pm |
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Site Supporter Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2012 Posts: 7649
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Guns4Liberty wrote: Alpine wrote: Is the NRA really ok with this? I thought they were going to sue to block this last time I checked. Did they change their minds? This was their official statement: They sound very OK with it to me. You pulled up something from 2017... Here's today: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/latest-n ... 52225.html _________________ If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/ Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738 Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them" |
| Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:02 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Lynnwood/Bothell Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2014 Posts: 8562 Real Name: Curtis
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Alpine wrote: You pulled up something from 2017... Here's today: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/latest-n ... 52225.html Translation: the NRA has flip-flopped. |
| Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:08 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17818 Real Name: Chuck
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"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me." ------------------------------------------------------------------------- First they came for the Bump Stocks, and I did not speak out— Because I did not own one. Then they came for the AR's, and I did not speak out— Because I did not own one. Then they came for the suppressors, and I did not speak out— Because I did not own one. Then they came for my hunting rifle—and there was no one left to speak for me. _________________ "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson "Evil often triumphs, but never conquers." Joseph Roux |
| Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:42 pm |
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Site Admin   Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52035 Real Name: Steve
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leadcounsel wrote: As a gun owner and life long member of the NRA, I'm mixed on this. I'm also mad as hell for the NRA and Trump to cave on this issue. I feel very betrayed by the NRA. VERY betrayed. And betrayed by Trump. I am and continue to be an ardent Trump supporter, but admit I'm fuming mad about this betrayal as well. A total broken promise. But the NRA and Trump are our biggest advocates. What do we do??? What do we do when our friends sell us out??? * Note, I've never fired, held, or owned a bump stock and see them as a relatively useless and impractical novelty but one that must be protected. It's really a terrible precedent that just because 1 human did something really bad with bumpstocks then the law is ignored and entire classes of items are banned without any real due process or change in the law... Well said, sir. _________________ Steve Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association Life Member, Second Amendment Foundation Patriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of America Life Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms Legal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy Coalition Member, NAGR/NFGR Please support the organizations that support all of us. Leave it cleaner than you found it. |
| Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:17 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 18454 Real Name: Johnny 5
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Agencies don't make law, congress does...
_________________ NO DISASSEMBLE! Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." |
| Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:32 pm |
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Site Admin Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52035 Real Name: Steve
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TechnoWeenie wrote: Agencies don't make law, congress does... Well, that's a good theory. Like the Constitution. _________________ Steve Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association Life Member, Second Amendment Foundation Patriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of America Life Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms Legal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy Coalition Member, NAGR/NFGR Please support the organizations that support all of us. Leave it cleaner than you found it. |
| Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:55 pm |
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Site Supporter Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2012 Posts: 7649
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SCOTUS granted cert to a case right now that may gut the ATF of much of its rule making power.
_________________ If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/ Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738 Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them" |
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