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Welp, another debunked faulty data climate change study.
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leadcounsel
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Location: Can't say Joined: Sun Sep 7, 2014 Posts: 8131
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Gee, who knew?!?! https://www.foxnews.com/science/error-i ... n-expectedError in major climate study revealed – warming NOT higher than expected By Maxim Lott "A major new climate study in the journal Nature got worldwide media coverage for finding that the oceans warmed dramatically faster than previously thought — but now the researchers have retracted that conclusion after a man in the United Kingdom blogged about flaws he discovered in the paper. Just two weeks after publication, the study authors have revised their paper, and now conclude that the oceans are warming fast -- but at the same rate as other measurements have found." Once again, a big fraud on the American people and the globe designed to scare you, tax you, burden you... a scam that gets revealed with greater frequency.
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| Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:08 pm |
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DONOTBUGME
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Location: Auburn Joined: Wed May 4, 2016 Posts: 309
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It doesn't matter, the story was headline news and the retraction, if there will be one at all will be buried.
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| Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:44 pm |
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hkcavalier
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Location: NE WA Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 Posts: 5667
Real Name: The Dude
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Look at the long game... 
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| Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:45 pm |
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sportsdad60
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Location: The banana belt of MT Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2015 Posts: 8703
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Climate Change/GLobal WORMING has always been about taxation and control of the masses of population. It's why Dems embrassed it, it fits their M.O.
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| Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:18 pm |
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PMC
Location: North Seattle Joined: Sat Nov 26, 2011 Posts: 604
Real Name: Paul
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Yes. The world's top scientists are all defrauding the taxpayers so they can make tens of thousands dollars less than what they could be making if they worked in private industry.
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| Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:39 pm |
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sportsdad60
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Location: The banana belt of MT Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2015 Posts: 8703
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PMC wrote: Yes. The world's top scientists are all defrauding the taxpayers so they can make tens of thousands dollars less than what they could be making if they worked in private industry. True. One of Maslow's theories in psychology is that certain people will put forth a reason for existance in their life, be it save the whales, save the owls, save the planet, over any financial income. "If it feels good, do it" mentality. Thanks for that 1960's baby boomers. 
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| Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:54 pm |
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Goomer214
Location: Burien Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 Posts: 42
Real Name: Jeremiah
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I work for a barge company that delivers fuel to the far north of Alaska. There is a lot less ice and you’d think it would make life easier rite. Well there is so little ice now during the summer that the seas get large enough to damage the barges. They have to ground the barges to unload fuel but with the lack of ice to bigger against the rough water of the North Pole it beats the barges up. This is a new trend. The warming is real you can argue about the consequences. I also would not want to breath polluted air I don’t care about the rest of it.
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| Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:02 pm |
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leadcounsel
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Goomer214 wrote: I work for a barge company that delivers fuel to the far north of Alaska. There is a lot less ice and you’d think it would make life easier rite. Well there is so little ice now during the summer that the seas get large enough to damage the barges. They have to ground the barges to unload fuel but with the lack of ice to bigger against the rough water of the North Pole it beats the barges up. This is a new trend. The warming is real you can argue about the consequences. I also would not want to breath polluted air I don’t care about the rest of it. Human observation over a few years in one area is hardly scientific.
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| Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:51 pm |
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hkcavalier
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Goomer214 wrote: I work for a barge company that delivers fuel to the far north of Alaska. There is a lot less ice and you’d think it would make life easier rite. Well there is so little ice now during the summer that the seas get large enough to damage the barges. They have to ground the barges to unload fuel but with the lack of ice to bigger against the rough water of the North Pole it beats the barges up. This is a new trend. The warming is real you can argue about the consequences. I also would not want to breath polluted air I don’t care about the rest of it. The point is not that our planet is warming --- such things are easily observed and recorded. It's whether or not the human race is having any significant impact on climate. We're still nowhere near as warm as circa 1000 A.D. when one could grow wine grapes in Sweden or wheat along the coast of Greenland. Even with the general warming trend, neither is possible using thousand year old means today. Statists will always support the "humans have a serious impact" camp as it is in line with their sociopolitical aspirations e.g. mass transit, higher taxes, more control over the people.
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| Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:36 pm |
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jukk0u
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Check out the Global Warming and Terra Forming thread for a link to a story reporting on Nasa's claim that sunspot activity is nearing a solar minimum 2 years ahead of time and may lead to a mini ice age much like the Maunder Minimum that caused one in the middle ages.
So much for global warming. God has granted a temporary reprieve.
Either get out there and start clear cutting forests and burning hydrocarbons or get your green house ready.
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| Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:47 pm |
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Col_Temp
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Goomer214 wrote: I work for a barge company that delivers fuel to the far north of Alaska. There is a lot less ice and you’d think it would make life easier rite. Well there is so little ice now during the summer that the seas get large enough to damage the barges. They have to ground the barges to unload fuel but with the lack of ice to bigger against the rough water of the North Pole it beats the barges up. This is a new trend. The warming is real you can argue about the consequences. I also would not want to breath polluted air I don’t care about the rest of it. Along with Leadcounsel's very timely observation. Localized events or changes do not necessarily mean something is happening or not happening on a global scale. Biggest problem with all the junk climate science out there is that most of the information we have is only from the last 100-150 years. The rest is mostly conjecture. Even taking a shortened period of roughly 6000 to 6500 years, 100+ years of observable actions really doesn't give you clear information about the rest. Observation for 2% of time and all at one extreme tells you very little about the whole.
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Selador
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| Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:07 am |
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leadcounsel
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You want to know how the rest of us can decide that 'global warming,' er, I mean 'global cooling,' er, I mean, 'man made climate change' is a hoax? None of their dire panic-causing predictions have been close to being accurate. In the 1970s, there was such a fear of 'global cooling' that the world was going to freeze that there were actual scientific proposals to dump tons of black ash on the polar caps to MELT THEM! Sounds like absolute LUNACY looking back doesn't it?!?! Well, that's precisely the panic lunacy "climate changers" are engulfed in today. Taking that course of action back then would have been absurd, expensive, nonsense. The same is true with carbon taxes, climate accords, and so forth today all at massive taxpayer burden. https://washingtonsblog.com/2009/12/scientists-considered-pouring-soot-over-the-arctic-in-the-1970s-to-help-melt-the-ice-in-order-to-prevent-another-ice-age.html"On April 28, 1975, Newsweek wrote an article stating: Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers, might create problems far greater than those they solve. But the scientists see few signs that government leaders anywhere are even prepared to take the simple measures of stockpiling food or of introducing the variables of climatic uncertainty into economic projections of future food supplies. The longer the planners delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality."   Now, how could humans make the earth Warm and then COOL a degree from 1880 to 1950 and then to 1970 per that chart, and now our behavior is making it warm in 4 decades? The answer is that it's all a fraud and we don't have that ability as humans. If the elite class REALLY believed this hogwash, they would personally stop carbon consumption, stop mansion buying, stop jet setting, and stop snapping up coastal properties. It's a load of hogwash designed to make folks chase their tale, pay taxes for "science," and dis-empower individuals and make us suffer while they gobble up resources and power. Because they control us or desire to control us and we compete with them for resources which they hoard.
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