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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 18058
Real Name: Chuck
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https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/11/ ... n=20181130"According to a report from the Washington Free Beacon, student Leyla Pirnie was asked to move out of her private apartment building after her roommates told her landlord that her legally owned firearms made them uncomfortable."
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 53100
Real Name: Steve
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Come on, Chuck. Are you implying that it's okay to make people uncomfortable?!
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olydemon
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Location: Olympia, Warshington. Joined: Fri May 27, 2011 Posts: 12526
Real Name: Oly Damon
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All I saw was Free Bacon.....
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Guntrader
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Location: Mukilteoish Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 Posts: 11589
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I've hired and fired a lot of people over my career, and nowadays if someone had 'Harvard' or 'Berkeley' on their resume, I don't think I would hire them. Gonna be some weird ass snowflake entitlement problems down the road.
"We discussed with Leyla that all of us are uncomfortable with having firearms in the house, and that their presence causes anxiety and deprives us of the quiet enjoyment of the premise to which we are entitled"
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 18058
Real Name: Chuck
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MadPick wrote: Come on, Chuck. Are you implying that it's okay to make people uncomfortable?! I make everybody uncomfortable. Can't wait for NYD to creep everybody out. 
_________________ "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson "Evil often triumphs, but never conquers." Joseph Roux
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waglocker
Location: Ohio Joined: Fri Nov 9, 2012 Posts: 3915
Real Name: Sean
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So they ransacked her room to find a legally owned firearm. If I were the landlord, the people who ransacked the room would be the ones facing eviction. Where are the police in this mess? I'm not a lawyer, but I see no legal standing for this lady to be facing eviction....she did nothing wrong.
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oldkim
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Location: Maple Valley, WA Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 9428
Real Name: Young
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“Wrong” - all depends on the one who is measuring and ruling what is wrong.
Freedom cuts both ways and this is the fundamental way antigun folks are winning. They put fear and force out the law abiding and make us look like monsters and killers.
By making the general public and especially those with some power and influence - land owners, businesses and law makers put pressure of all kinds that even trickles down from our own family and friends.
We let this slide because the effort to change it is HUGE and daunting for the individual.
This is where we are being cut down because we are not UNITED and they are. And they are cutting us down one by one.
As the saying goes... United we stand or divide we shall fall.
We ARE falling... and it’s a sad state - for Freedom.
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Alpine
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If no guns was in the lease then the landlord can boot her. If it wasn't then she can sue.
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Selador
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Location: Index Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 Posts: 12955
Real Name: Jeff
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waglocker wrote: So they ransacked her room to find a legally owned firearm. If I were the landlord, the people who ransacked the room would be the ones facing eviction. Where are the police in this mess? I'm not a lawyer, but I see no legal standing for this lady to be facing eviction....she did nothing wrong. 
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lamrith
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Location: Tacoma/Puyallup Joined: Tue May 8, 2012 Posts: 4330
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Two intertwined but separate issues here.
1. Invasion of privacy by the roomates. As Sean commented on, that should be a bigger deal than it is being made. Landlord should not want people that break into others rooms and ransack them. I would also think that Leyla should have filed a police report and be seeking legal action against them. What they did violated Leyla's rights plain and simple. 2. Landlord/property owner rights. Landlord Owns the property, he ultimately has the say in who and what can be on his property. Maybe he is antigun, ohh well, it is HIS property he has the right to not allow firearms on his property. Maybe it is hard to find tenants in that area and he is faced with losing 3 or losing 1? Just like all of you have the right to deny dogs, cats, or anything else off your property. It would be interesting to see if there was anything in the rental contract about no firearms, etc. That could give her some standing to counter the eviction.
But honestly, who wants to live in a place you are unwanted, be it by the landlord or roomates? Hopefully all the publicity gets her in contact with a landlord that will appreciate her point of view and rights.
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Alpine
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lamrith wrote: Two intertwined but separate issues here.
1. Invasion of privacy by the roomates. As Sean commented on, that should be a bigger deal than it is being made. Landlord should not want people that break into others rooms and ransack them. I would also think that Leyla should have filed a police report and be seeking legal action against them. What they did violated Leyla's rights plain and simple. 2. Landlord/property owner rights. Landlord Owns the property, he ultimately has the say in who and what can be on his property. Maybe he is antigun, ohh well, it is HIS property he has the right to not allow firearms on his property. Maybe it is hard to find tenants in that area and he is faced with losing 3 or losing 1? Just like all of you have the right to deny dogs, cats, or anything else off your property. It would be interesting to see if there was anything in the rental contract about no firearms, etc. That could give her some standing to counter the eviction.
But honestly, who wants to live in a place you are unwanted, be it by the landlord or roomates? Hopefully all the publicity gets her in contact with a landlord that will appreciate her point of view and rights. If the landlord didn't put it in the lease contract then he can't kick her out.
_________________If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 18058
Real Name: Chuck
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If you read it they did not find any guns. They just assumed since she had a MAGA hat that she would.
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leadcounsel
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Location: Can't say Joined: Sun Sep 7, 2014 Posts: 8131
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So, here's the issue as I see it.
Guns are treated far differently in a wrong and illegal sense than other civil rights. It seems that absent good cause (national defense, prohibited places like court rooms, jails, etc.) then guns are no different than other civil rights. Isn't self defense (right to life, liberty...) a civil right?? The 2A was incorporated under the 14A by the McDonald v. Chicago case.
I hope this victim sues and wins.
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snozzberries
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Location: King County Joined: Thu Oct 16, 2014 Posts: 4012
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This is simple. It's nothing but contract law. Guns are irrelevant. If roommates want to move out, or the landlord wants to force a tenant out, there are provisions for that.
Are all of the roommates on the lease? You can't move out and think you vacate your responsibility to pay rent. You can't force somebody out that hasn't violated the lease.
Your roommates complain, so what. Go fuck yourself. They don't like it, they can move. They still have to pay rent.
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WaJim
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Location: Tacoma Wa Joined: Tue Oct 8, 2013 Posts: 16607
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. Anti-Knocks Knife vs Mozambique - Spoiler: show
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozambique_Drill
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