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"Your medical marijuana use disqualifies you from ownership of firearms and ammunition."
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That letter is dated 2017, has it been going in for over a year now? Or has it been stopped by the courts?


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Well heck, that's no secret.


I've heard for years the MJ Green Card form you sign says you give up your 2A.



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That letter is dated 2017, has it been going in for over a year now? Or has it been stopped by the courts?


The only cases I remember ended up with the courts (9th circuit?) pretty much saying Federal law still applied and as such using Pot made a person unable to own a firearm. I believe that same case also ruled that possessing a medical MJ card was enough probable cause to classify a person as a pot user.

Im honestly surprised we havent seen a crap ton more of this though. Especially in CA and NY


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That letter is dated 2017, has it been going in for over a year now? Or has it been stopped by the courts?

Just found it on reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/co ... ooks_like/

I don't see any updates on the page. But the law federal clearly states if you are a user of marijuana you are prohibited.

Wait until Washington merges the records from pot shops with the records from background checks and goes door-to-door.


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Wait until Washington merges the records from pot shops with the records from background checks and goes door-to-door.



I dont beleive washington would ever do anything of the sort....but Seattle?

Ohhhh Yeah

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Call me crazy but I’d rather see ganja smoking gun owners than alcoholic gun owners. Don’t condone either but just saying if I had to choose.

Same with people driving while stoned. I’d prefer it over people driving while drunk. Again, don’t condone either but just saying.




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snozzberries wrote:
Wacarry wrote:
That letter is dated 2017, has it been going in for over a year now? Or has it been stopped by the courts?

Just found it on reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/co ... ooks_like/

I don't see any updates on the page. But the law federal clearly states if you are a user of marijuana you are prohibited.

Wait until Washington merges the records from pot shops with the records from background checks and goes door-to-door.

Recreational marijuana stores don't have records. And most are cash only to avoid incrimination of patrons through electronic records. Most have Atm's inside. I suppose it could be proven that you withdrew money at a location, but how could they prove you spent it there?

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Call me crazy but I’d rather see ganja smoking gun owners than alcoholic gun owners. Don’t condone either but just saying if I had to choose.

Same with people driving while stoned. I’d prefer it over people driving while drunk. Again, don’t condone either but just saying.




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Call me crazy but I’d rather see ganja smoking gun owners than alcoholic gun owners. Don’t condone either but just saying if I had to choose.

Same with people driving while stoned. I’d prefer it over people driving while drunk. Again, don’t condone either but just saying.




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No shit right?

And alchohol is legal...federally and state level.

Thems fighting werds.

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Recreational marijuana stores don't have records. And most are cash only to avoid incrimination of patrons through electronic records. Most have Atm's inside.


They scan your ID at the door. They have records.


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Recreational marijuana stores don't have records. And most are cash only to avoid incrimination of patrons through electronic records. Most have Atm's inside.


They scan your ID at the door. They have records.

Scan it to make sure it's a valid ID. Do you have any info to say they actually record it?


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Sooo.... do we want states to uphold federal laws and toss out 1639? Or do we want states to ignore federal laws and uphold laws that enable addicts?

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Sooo.... do we want states to uphold federal laws and toss out 1639? Or do we want states to ignore federal laws and uphold laws that enable addicts?

I'll answer that with another question...do we want the feds enforcing laws that they didn't have the constitutional authority to enact in the first place?


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Apparently reading comprehension is not a pot smoking gun owners forte.........Every time you buy a gun and fill out ATF Form 4473 line "e", it asks....Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug or any other controlled substance?
WARNING: THE USE OF OR POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA REMAINS UNLAWFUL UNDER FEDERAL LAW REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT HAS BEEN LEGALIZED OR DECRIMINALIZED FOR MEDICAL OR RECREATIONAL PURPOSES IN THE STATE WHERE YOU RESIDE.

DON'T GET A MMJ CARD IF YOU WANT YOUR GUNS........LAW ENFORCEMENT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT DATABASE.

There's NO DATABASE for recreational use if your worried about gun confiscation, while you are committing a federal felony.

Sucks for some people. But until it's federally legal, you gotta play by their stupid rules.


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