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delliottg
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Location: Duvall Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 4670
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jackass wrote: I got a flu shot since I was going to Team Spirit in '89. That night I got a nasty rash on my back. I had to drive to my Battalion in Long Beach to get a signed Sick Slip and headed to the hospital that day. They threw me some pills which took down the swelling and itch but I try to avoid flu shots when I can. I explained my story to a PA (years later) and he got me a 30 year exemption. This did not stop the higher ups from trying to get me further flu shots (notably H1N1), which I refused. I just take Vitamin D3, 5K i.u. per day or 50K i.u. per week.
Same for Hep B, and anthrax. Anthrax sent me to the hospital with a fever that would not break. After a third try, a sympathetic doctor gave me an exemption from the anthrax series for me, and no more trips to the hospital. You are exactly why herd immunity is so important. You can't be immunized for valid reasons. Anyone else who isn't getting immunized yearly is simply propagating the problem. Approximately 80,000 people died from influenza least year (CDC numbers). It disproportionately affects children and oldsters who also depend on herd immunity to protect them. If you're not getting your shot because you don't understand the science or you think it's going to make you sick you're part of the problem.
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codfather
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Location: Rainier Joined: Sat Jun 28, 2014 Posts: 1513
Real Name: Darryl
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Never had a flu shot and never will. A couple guy's at work got the flu shot and would still get sick....I talked them out of getting it and the last few years they have been fine. They choose the 3 or 5 viruses they THINK are going to come around....they might be right or they might not. So I guess I'm just part of the problem.....oh and I don't vote...never have and never will...just a problem child I guess
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mmalleck
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Location: Bellevue area - WA Joined: Wed Jan 9, 2013 Posts: 1497
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I have never had a flu shot, neither has my family. H1N1 hit the family pretty hard back in 2009 or so, it didn't really do much to me. I don't really get sick much. We do go to the chiropractor, family eats healthy (I don't), we also take probiotics and Del-Immune during flu & cold season.
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reginald_burrito
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Location: Not Seattle Joined: Wed Nov 2, 2016 Posts: 706
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Every year. Never had the flu.
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WaJim
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Location: Tacoma Wa Joined: Tue Oct 8, 2013 Posts: 16607
Real Name: George Bailey
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SporkBoy wrote: A preventable form of death that kills a multitude every year? Yeah, why would anyone bother?
Majority of people (the 60%?) are blissfully ignorant and/or misinformed. Nothing new here. Sarcasm is evident. Your math however Contradicts the first statement. I'm confused.
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jackass
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Location: Burien Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2013 Posts: 6174
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delliottg wrote: You are exactly why herd immunity is so important. You can't be immunized for valid reasons. Anyone else who isn't getting immunized yearly is simply propagating the problem.
Approximately 80,000 people died from influenza least year (CDC numbers). It disproportionately affects children and oldsters who also depend on herd immunity to protect them.
If you're not getting your shot because you don't understand the science or you think it's going to make you sick you're part of the problem. Vaccines are a government protected racket meant to support the medical industrial complex. Each year there are additional shots to supposedly treat an increasing number of maladies that were treated in the past with a strong immune system. How about this, I won't get my shot, I'll take my chances. I'll stay home if I get sick. I don't trust the CDC numbers. The exact number is influenza and influenza related symptoms, whatever that is. In my mind, that includes reactions to vaccines that make people sick and die. I don't trust the adjuvants that go in some vaccines (e.g squalene) and I don't trust the other ingredients, e.g. formaldehyde, mercury, aluminum that make it much worse. If it were a benign solution with an attenuated virus, that would be one this. IT NEVER IS.
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Guns4Liberty
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Location: Lynnwood/Bothell Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2014 Posts: 8688
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I never got them until I had kids...pediatrician said it was strongly recommended. But that wasn't why I got them; my pregnant wife said it was not optional (we all know what that means), so I didn't argue. The first one (2017) didn't help; I still got the flu. I got another one this year; made my neck uncomfortably stiff for 3-4 days. I still think they're worthless, and now that we're probably done having kids, I'm probably done getting the shot.
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RockHopper
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Location: Tulsa, Ok Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2013 Posts: 2336
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I never had a single immunization until the ago of 16. Seriously...not one. My mum was an LPN for more than 40 years, but also a bit of a religious extremist. I don’t know how my folks got around all the rules for public schools, (Ohio, Oklahoma, Michigan) but it wasn’t until we moved to Florida that the school system refused to let me enroll until I’d had ...whatever.
To put it into perspective, I was entering my sophomore year of high school. Incidentally, my Grandmother, and all three of her daughters were lifelong career nurses. None of those cadre of children from my generation got immunizations. Between my own siblings, and cousins...something like 25 of us from that generation, and all of us still going strong. My grandmother is now 103.
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Capn Blood
Location: On your six Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2018 Posts: 873
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Anyone tries to inject me with that toxic soup will find out what the word pain means, STAT
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Capn Blood
Location: On your six Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2018 Posts: 873
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delliottg wrote: jackass wrote: I got a flu shot since I was going to Team Spirit in '89. That night I got a nasty rash on my back. I had to drive to my Battalion in Long Beach to get a signed Sick Slip and headed to the hospital that day. They threw me some pills which took down the swelling and itch but I try to avoid flu shots when I can. I explained my story to a PA (years later) and he got me a 30 year exemption. This did not stop the higher ups from trying to get me further flu shots (notably H1N1), which I refused. I just take Vitamin D3, 5K i.u. per day or 50K i.u. per week.
Same for Hep B, and anthrax. Anthrax sent me to the hospital with a fever that would not break. After a third try, a sympathetic doctor gave me an exemption from the anthrax series for me, and no more trips to the hospital. You are exactly why herd immunity is so important. You can't be immunized for valid reasons. Anyone else who isn't getting immunized yearly is simply propagating the problem. Approximately 80,000 people died from influenza least year (CDC numbers). It disproportionately affects children and oldsters who also depend on herd immunity to protect them. If you're not getting your shot because you don't understand the science or you think it's going to make you sick you're part of the problem. Either you have a dog in this fight or you are brainwashed. These shots are packed with toxins such as mercury, and to boot they weaken the immune system so that your body can't fight things like cancer as well. I've seen it firsthand with our canines, who no longer get vaccinations because it kills them (Rottweilers) Like I said, I will never get one and I'm willing to back that up with whatever means are required, as I consider it to be a biological weapon https://www.mondialisation.ca/the-flu-s ... ne/5550163https://www.sophiahi.com/why-not-to-get-the-flu-shot/
_________________ Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt the Younger
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os2firefox
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Location: Idaho (pending) Joined: Sat Aug 4, 2012 Posts: 2824
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Fun fact: thimerosal (ethylmercury) hasn't been used in child vaccines since 1999-2001.
Could you kindly re-check your information on vaccines to make sue you are up-to-date on current practices.
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reginald_burrito
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Location: Not Seattle Joined: Wed Nov 2, 2016 Posts: 706
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Thimerosal is about as similar to mercury as sulfur dioxide is to taurine, the sulfonic acid in the steaks you eat and that is synthesized by your body. Do your muscles contain toxic gas?
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delliottg
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Location: Duvall Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 4670
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os2firefox wrote: Fun fact: thimerosal (ethylmercury) hasn't been used in child vaccines since 1999-2001.
Quit spreading bullshit. What he said. Plus mercury (poison) is to ethyl mercury (thiomersal) as sodium (spontaneously explodes when exposed to water) is to table salt (sodium chloride). When compounded, ethyl mercury is eliminated from your body quickly, as opposed to mercury when tends to stay around with very nasty results.
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RockHopper
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Location: Tulsa, Ok Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2013 Posts: 2336
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os2firefox wrote: Fun fact: thimerosal (ethylmercury) hasn't been used in child vaccines since 1999-2001.
Quit spreading bullshit. I know that wasn’t directed at me, but it was pretty harsh. If the guys info is out of date, he’s just wrong...it doesn’t rate an insult.
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Capn Blood
Location: On your six Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2018 Posts: 873
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os2firefox wrote: Fun fact: thimerosal (ethylmercury) hasn't been used in child vaccines since 1999-2001.
Quit spreading bullshit. So you say.. prove it And even if you are right, that means the bastards were pumping mercury into vaccines as short a time ago as 17 years, and at any time it or other poisons can be introduced. And are you one of the poison pushers that shot that $hit into unsuspecting Americans? Yeah, I trust them to shoot that crap into me... never
_________________ Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt the Younger
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