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Over 40% of Americans refuse to get flu vaccinations
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 Location: North Seattle Joined: Sat Nov 26, 2011 Posts: 604 Real Name: Paul 
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RockHopper wrote: os2firefox wrote: Fun fact: thimerosal (ethylmercury) hasn't been used in child vaccines since 1999-2001. Quit spreading bullshit. I know that wasn’t directed at me, but it was pretty harsh. If the guys info is out of date, he’s just wrong...it doesn’t rate an insult. It does when the guy accuses you of either not being a good faith actor or being brainwashed. |
| Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:18 pm |
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Site Supporter   Location: Idaho (pending) Joined: Sat Aug 4, 2012 Posts: 2824
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https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/conce ... index.html
Quote: Thimerosal was taken out of childhood vaccines in the United States in 2001. Measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccines do not and never did contain thimerosal. Varicella (chickenpox), inactivated polio (IPV), and pneumococcal conjugate vaccines have also never contained thimerosal. Influenza (flu) vaccines are currently available in both thimerosal-containing (for multi-dose vaccine vials) and thimerosal-free versions. Got a question, how many here eat fish (contains methylmercury which is much worse), have handled buckets of mercury in the garage as a child, or handle lead in large quantities, yet are suspicious that vaccines may have trace amounts of something that may be bad but was never linked to anything at all really? |
| Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:26 pm |
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In Memoriam  Location: Mukilteoish Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 Posts: 11589
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I used to have a half pint of mercury I used to run through my hands in the 80's.
And most people in the US have mercury fillings. Can't be that bad for you. _________________ NRA Endowment Member. How did they know my member was well endowed? Last edited by Guntrader on Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:33 pm, edited 2 times in total. |
| Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:32 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: East of Japan, not by much. Joined: Fri Jun 3, 2011 Posts: 13009
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People eat a lot of Roundup in all their foods these days too.
That doesn't make it right. If God wanted you to eat Roundup, he would own Bayer-Monsanto. _________________ Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day. Give a man a fishing pole, and he will drink too much beer, get tangled in fish line, hook himself in the nose casting, fall overboard, and either drown, or, go home hungry and wet. Give a man a case of dynamite, and he will feed the whole town for a year! BE ON NOTICE: PRIVACY NOTICE: Warning - any person and/or institution and/or Agent and/or Agency of any governmental structure including but not limited to the United States Federal Government also using or monitoring/using this website or any of its associated websites, you do NOT have my permission to utilize any of my profile information nor any of the content contained herein including, but not limited to my photos, and/or the comments made about my photos or any other "picture" art posted on my profile. You are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing, disseminating, or taking any other action against me with regard to this profile and the contents herein. The foregoing prohibitions also apply to your employee, agent, student or any personnel under your direction or control. The contents of this profile are PRIVATE and legally privileged and confidential information, and the violation of my personal privacy is punishable by law. UCC 1-103 1-308 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED WITHOUT PREJUDICE |
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Site Supporter  Location: Nisqually Valley Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2016 Posts: 4982
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Why doesn't my dog get the flu?
How come I never see the squirrel by the mill cough? Are hairballs contagious? maybe I should get a hairball shot, seems like the cat is always coming down with a case of the hairballs. |
| Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:47 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Nisqually Valley Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2016 Posts: 4982
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RENCORP wrote: People eat a lot of Roundup in all their foods these days too. That doesn't make it right. If God wanted you to eat Roundup, he would own Bayer-Monsanto. Just look at the amount of arsenic in rice, veggies and juices. That's enough t frighten a person. To many years of using it as a pesticide has left it in the soils in high concentrations that plants readily absorb like a fertilizer. The soil around Tacoma (Asarco smelter) is most likely safer than most of eastern Wa and the south where cotton used to be grown. They still use it in other parts of the world and then we import those fruits/veggies. Think twice about what you put in your mouth. Not all of it comes out of your ass. |
| Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:58 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Marysville, WA Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 Posts: 11570 Real Name: Mike
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SporkBoy wrote: A preventable form of death that kills a multitude every year? Yeah, why would anyone bother? Majority of people are blissfully ignorant and/or misinformed. Nothing new here. How true. Every once in a while a good epidemic comes along and thins out the population. In modern times those who think vaccinations are bullshit might be the largest number to get "thinned". _________________ "I've learned from the Dog that an afternoon nap is a good thing" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother" - William Shakespeare |
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Site Supporter  Location: Rainier Joined: Sat Jun 28, 2014 Posts: 1513 Real Name: Darryl
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We all gotta go from something
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Site Supporter  Location: Burien Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2013 Posts: 6174
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os2firefox wrote: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/thimerosal/index.html Quote: Thimerosal was taken out of childhood vaccines in the United States in 2001. Measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccines do not and never did contain thimerosal. Varicella (chickenpox), inactivated polio (IPV), and pneumococcal conjugate vaccines have also never contained thimerosal. Influenza (flu) vaccines are currently available in both thimerosal-containing (for multi-dose vaccine vials) and thimerosal-free versions. Got a question, how many here eat fish (contains methylmercury which is much worse), have handled buckets of mercury in the garage as a child, or handle lead in large quantities, yet are suspicious that vaccines may have trace amounts of something that may be bad but was never linked to anything at all really? Mercury in fish is bound with other elements. Mercury in vaccines is much more reactive and dangerous injected into a human body, regardless on whether its called mercury or thermiserol. |
| Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:49 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Burien Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2013 Posts: 6174
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I'm "pro-choice". Don't make them mandatory. If sick, self quarantine. And don't protect vaccine manufacturers from lawsuit (does not mean the special vaccine court) and don't spend government money promoting them.
I'm aware of the US Army experience with infectious diseases in its past. Yes, a germ vector will incapacitate a significant sector of your fighting force and preventing illness is laudable. But in the current manner of preventing illness outside of sanitation makes me wonder if the priority has shifted to ensuring the contractor makes money not safeguarding our troops. https://australiannationalreview.com/20 ... -flu-shot/ Despite the study’s excellent pedigree, ABC News – which receives the majority of its advertising from the pharmaceutical industry – described the study’s findings as “puzzling” and then attempted to make excuses for the flu shot, even suggesting the CDC should create a propaganda campaign to convince expectant mothers to lining up for the flu shot, despite the massively increased risk of losing their baby. |
| Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:53 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Burien Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2013 Posts: 6174
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deadshot2 wrote: SporkBoy wrote: A preventable form of death that kills a multitude every year? Yeah, why would anyone bother? Majority of people are blissfully ignorant and/or misinformed. Nothing new here. How true. Every once in a while a good epidemic comes along and thins out the population. In modern times those who think vaccinations are bullshit might be the largest number to get "thinned". I guess the non vaccinated will get to see the vaccinated get Alzheimer's, autism and other immune system related ailments. Pick your poison. But let me choose mine. |
| Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:58 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Idaho (pending) Joined: Sat Aug 4, 2012 Posts: 2824
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jackass wrote: os2firefox wrote: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/thimerosal/index.html Quote: Thimerosal was taken out of childhood vaccines in the United States in 2001. Measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccines do not and never did contain thimerosal. Varicella (chickenpox), inactivated polio (IPV), and pneumococcal conjugate vaccines have also never contained thimerosal. Influenza (flu) vaccines are currently available in both thimerosal-containing (for multi-dose vaccine vials) and thimerosal-free versions. Got a question, how many here eat fish (contains methylmercury which is much worse), have handled buckets of mercury in the garage as a child, or handle lead in large quantities, yet are suspicious that vaccines may have trace amounts of something that may be bad but was never linked to anything at all really? Mercury in fish is bound with other elements. Mercury in vaccines is much more reactive and dangerous injected into a human body, regardless on whether its called mercury or thermiserol. I believe that is actually false. Ethylmercury (vaccines) does not bioacumulate like methylmercury (fish), because it gets converted mostly to inorganic mercury when metabolized. Methylmercury gets converted to organic mercury, which is why it accumulates in large predatory fish. |
| Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:03 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Burien Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2013 Posts: 6174
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os2firefox wrote: I believe that is actually false. Ethylmercury (vaccines) does not bioacumulate like methylmercury (fish), because it gets converted mostly to inorganic mercury when metabolized. Methylmercury gets converted to organic mercury, which is why it accumulates in large predatory fish. If you eat fish with mercury, do you get a reaction? Mercury with fish is bad. If you get a shot with mercury in it, oftentimes people get a reaction, either because of the aluminum, squalene or mercury. These elements are put in there to cause an auto immune response which is harmful to many people like myself. Mercury eaten in fish is processed through your digestive system. Mercury and other bad elements are directly injected into your blood system and break your blood-brain barrier (as designed) and bypass your natural, God given protective barriers, like skin, mucous membranes, etc. For many people like myself, I get a high fever, rashes, swelling. Do you get with with fish? I hope not. Seriously, can people make a choice what is injected into them? |
| Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:09 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Idaho (pending) Joined: Sat Aug 4, 2012 Posts: 2824
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jackass wrote: deadshot2 wrote: SporkBoy wrote: A preventable form of death that kills a multitude every year? Yeah, why would anyone bother? Majority of people are blissfully ignorant and/or misinformed. Nothing new here. How true. Every once in a while a good epidemic comes along and thins out the population. In modern times those who think vaccinations are bullshit might be the largest number to get "thinned". I guess the non vaccinated will get to see the vaccinated get Alzheimer's, autism and other immune system related ailments. Pick your poison. But let me choose mine. By far, the most clinically significant is guillain barre syndrome, which may be triggered by immunization. However, I'm going to wager that is not due to having trace "harmful" substances but rather to being exposed to the pathogen itself and triggering a defective immune response. If you never encounter the pathogen (either in the wild or vaccine), you won't develop this I guess. In this case, we need to develop better testing to identify people that are predesposed to GBS. There is no statistical difference between immunized and not immunized on the other ailments. |
| Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:12 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Not Seattle Joined: Wed Nov 2, 2016 Posts: 706
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No dubious arguments here! I guess polio, smallpox, dengue fever, malaria and hepatitis are just hoaxes.
Today I learned the digestive system doesn’t diffuse anything into your bloodstream and all mercury compounds are equally toxic, but that same principle of toxicity doesn’t apply to any other element in existence. Might as well turn in your guns, too. It’s such a hassle to strap on every day, and carry all that extra weight. You might end up getting injured by your own weapon. Back in the day before guns, you’d be stronger than your attackers. No need for an ounce of prevention when you have pounds of cure. I had a lot of faith that this group was far too analytical and skeptical to fall for this nonsense, but instead I’m seeing the same blind contrarianism and demagoguery the left is so often railed for. You are smarter than this. Your arguments are the same ones used by the essential-oils and pyramid-scheme-cosmetics crowds. Make your choice; it’s your right— but please... make it as an informed individual. And if you choose to disbelieve the benefits of vaccines, you might as well stick to your principals and consider skipping the antibiotics next time you get an infection. I hear they’re made from toxic mold. |
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