All fish contain mercury. We keep track of it too:
https://www.epa.gov/fish-tech/epa-fda-f ... nformation



You don't get a reaction to the mercury in a vaccine, you get an immune response to the bits of virus in the vaccine.

Aluminum = adjuvant that boost the immune response, so that you require less of the vaccine. You also consume bits of this when using aluminum foil and utensils.
Squalene = also an adjuvant.
Thiomersal(mercury) = preservative, so you can create a stock of vaccines that you can distribute to a mass of people.



The digestive system is lined with blood vessels to absorb as much as they can from it, the membranes are very permeable.



Most vaccines are administered via intramuscular rather than intravenous injection, so not directly into the bloodstream.

But let's put things in perspective:

A flu shot has 25 micrograms of ethylmercury that has a half life of 7-10 days in the human body. There are also flu shots with no mercury at all.
https://www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvacci ... /ucm096228

A 5 ounce serving of tuna can have between 50 and 100 micrograms of methylmercury, that has a half life of 80 or so days.

How many times per year do you eat fish? Where do you think you get most of your mercury from?



That's a tough one... you obviously want everyone to be healthy, but you can't really force people to be injected with stuff in a free society. I don't agree with spreading inaccurate facts, but I do agree with your call to self-quarantine when sick.

Should people be liable for damages if they go vaccinated and transmit a preventable disease? Possibly... maybe we can use today's DNA/RNA sequencing to tell who passed what virus to another person.

I dearly hope that NONE of what I put in my mouth, came out of my butt.

I disagree, the reason why adjuvants are placed in vaccines is to create a heightened response with less vaccine. Boosting your response in many people means causing a reaction, e.g. fever, rash.


Correct, although there are more natural defenses to deal with fish bound mercury than mercury in vaccines.


Regardless, it bypasses many of your natural defense mechanisms that would normally handle a disease.


But there are many vaccines that DO contain mercury, and aluminum, formaldehyde, and squalene.


I avoid fish, so most of my mercury came with forced vaccinations in the Army.


I disagree with your "facts", you disagree with mine. If we do not injure anyone, can we be free to live our lives as we see fit?

Mercury is in your primers. Aluminum is in your deodorant. Your body produces formaldehyde as part of the one-carbon (1C) cycle and can eliminate it. Formaldehyde is also a byproduct of a metabolite of aspartame, and also the result of vitamin C reacting with sodium benzoate (do you check your foods for these ingredients?). Squalene is in rice, wheat, and olives. Or did you mean squalane, found in shark liver oil and human sebum?



You are free to live out your life as you see fit. But you are lying to yourself if you think you aren’t harming anyone else. Do you also disbelieve the principle of herd immunity? This means that your body’s defenses against a pathogen is what protects those who are unable to defend against the pathogen themselves (e.g. small children, the elderly).

You don’t need to become infected to pass on a pathogen unknowingly. All the self-quarantine in the world can’t stop you from transmitting what you don’t know you have.

Nobody appears to be addressing my point about how vaccinations eradicated polio in the US. How would this be possible if vaccines were ineffective?

There is no reason to get sick from a preventable disease.

Aluminum is in antiperspirant, not most deodorants. Just trying to clarify. Sorry, living this close to Bellingham, the hippies make things like this known.

Yes this is correct, thank you. Let’s consider instead baking powder. I am not sure whether retail labeling laws require manufacturers to specify whether they use aluminum-free, or if simply stating “baking powder” is sufficient.

Bottom line is - freedom of choice.

I am not a believer in government taking away freedom of choice in exchange for kickbacks from the pharmaceutical industry.

If you had a shot, and adverse reactions to it, you would not be so warm and fuzzy about doing the same thing annually.

That is just common sense there.

Any information involving ingredients is irrelevant at that point.

The real issue is government eventually leaning towards everyone getting lots of mandatory vaccinations because control, and money.

Yeah, no, fuck no, and fucking fuckety fuck you no Mister Government and Drug Co lackeys.

I'll take freedom of choice first and foremost.

Just a note: The shaming BS doesn't work, save it for the gullible and children

I don’t think anyone here is arguing against freedom of choice for vaccination. There is, however, blatantly incorrect information being repeated. We don’t tolerate spreading misinformation about guns; I don’t understand why we should tolerate it for anything else.

If you say you don’t want to vaccinate due to personal beliefs, that’s your prerogative and it’s pretty much impossible to argue against on the basis of logic. When you start using pseudo-scientific explanations for your beliefs, however, your justifications are fair game for argument.

Concerns about vaccine safety stretch back decades, some of which were well founded and some of which were not. Expecting to eliminate those concerns with a finger snap is unreasonable.

It's also difficult to ascertain which random person on the Internet knows what they're talking about and which person read a bunch of PubMed articles and is now talking out of their ass. If anyone is the former and you don't offer any credentials to back up your postion, don't take it personally if people assume the latter.

Where is WaGuns member Murray when you need him?

He died from a reaction to a flu shot.

Some form of immunization is important, in the past, they had measles, mumps, chicken pox parties where kids would get childhood illnesses as a child. Not when they are newborn, or have a weakened (child or aged) or compromised immune system.

Aluminum in antiperspirants is a concern, I get mine from a natural health store. Aluminum is ingested from your underarms and not good in my book. So I don't do it. Great point.

I'll be the first in line to get a vaccine with a (one) dead virus in a benign carrier (no formaldehyde, aluminum, mercury preservatives or adjuvants like squalene). Preferably administered in a manner similar to smallpox (really cowpox).

We ought to think on the vaccines we give to children, their spacing, and the amount we give them. There is evidence that combining vaccines, notably MMR may be especially harmful.

We certainly don't need to give some like Hep B (sexually transmitted) to infants.

Some allege polio still exists but occurs in similar forms by different names. But I'll note polio as a partial success, the cancer that was found in there and given to generations of kids is not a good side benefit.

But I've had adverse reactions to: flu, Hep B, and anthrax (over 50 weaponized varieties and the vaccine only covers ONE). Why make my life miserable.

Herd immunity is a debatable subject. If you are vaccinated, why do you care?

Well thought out, well considered, and well said.

So, there is a real problem with immunizations. They dump a massive bolus of materials that trigger an immune system response way out of proportion compared to the immune response from an infection that that starts with a handful of pathogens.

This is typically why many folks have adverse reactions to immunizations.

This goes double for those immunizations that are 'bundled' with multiples like MMR/TDAP/Petussis, etc.

I don't know why immunizations aren't given in a time release format that uses much less material spread over time to more realistically mimic a 'natural' infection.