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Paycheck deductions for new paid family program starts
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Greenecho
Location: Auburn, WA. Joined: Sat Sep 2, 2017 Posts: 533
Real Name: Steve
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So if I get laid off after working 820 hours and have a child, does this mean I can draw this benefit (16 weeks max) and receive unemployment? Can I apply for welfare benefits too? Thanks taxpayers. You're the best. https://komonews.com/news/local/paychec ... -next-week
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Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:53 am |
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WaJim
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Location: Tacoma Wa Joined: Tue Oct 8, 2013 Posts: 16607
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Lol
"Paid family leave Programs"......Yeah, another name for new State Tax Revenue stream.
The chance this money goes into a "special account" and not the General Fund is exactly ZERO.
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Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:05 am |
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sreyemj
Joined: Tue Nov 27, 2012 Posts: 1367
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My wife will be paying into this all year, but won't benefit when she has her kid in August. Almost feels like we're being scammed.
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Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:18 am |
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vic_b
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Location: Maple valley Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2011 Posts: 3528
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sreyemj wrote: My wife will be paying into this all year, but won't benefit when she has her kid in August. Almost feels like we're being scammed. You are
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Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:25 am |
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jackass
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Location: Burien Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2013 Posts: 5878
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So there is no WA state income tax. But other taxes just get slipped in there.
Now everyone will try to get into this game. Look for redefinition of the family and supported activities.
When will illegal aliens get this?
Every employee in the state of Washington will pay into the program that was approved by the Legislature in 2017 [whether you want to or not]. Self-employed individuals who elect coverage pay only the employee share of the premiums, and employers with 50 or fewer employees are exempt from paying the employer share. Companies that already offer such programs can apply for a waiver, as long as the benefit the company offers is at least equivalent to the state program.
According to the Employment Security Department, an employee making $50,000 a year would pay about $2.44 a week[death by a thousand cuts], while their employer would pay about $1.41 a week, for a weekly benefit of about $778.
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Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:42 am |
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Greenecho
Location: Auburn, WA. Joined: Sat Sep 2, 2017 Posts: 533
Real Name: Steve
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sreyemj wrote: My wife will be paying into this all year, but won't benefit when she has her kid in August. Almost feels like we're being scammed. The benefits aren’t effective till 2020 which means they have a full year to build another bureaucracy of highly paid administrators to run it.
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Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:49 am |
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Pablo
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Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28178
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People will never take advantage or scam this. Yeah who pays? Working people - well except feds, unions, etc Who get get screwed? Hard working people. People who don't take off. People near retirement. Small companies.
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Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:53 am |
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danoh
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Location: Sumner, WA Joined: Mon Oct 15, 2012 Posts: 3025
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It's an State Income Tax with a bastard name. The bar for those that need to claim relief will be so high, you'd almost have to be dead before a check will be issued.
another bureaucracy with highly paid dimwits running it.........
another yearly shot in the arm for the State of Washington's growing pot of Gold, as the funds won't be carried forward.
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Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:15 pm |
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Ace
Location: KC area Missouri Joined: Sat Sep 10, 2016 Posts: 1572
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Look I’m a resonable guy a steady worker, and when I was laid off in 2016 I thought I could get those unemployment benefits I was paying into the state like everybody else. But what they don’t tell you is that if you take your employers severance package they can deny your claim. I got zilch, it was fortunate enough I found work a week later, but if I didn’t I’d probably be another homeless statistic. This state is a monster that needs to be slain.
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Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:38 pm |
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root
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Ace wrote: Look I’m a resonable guy a steady worker, and when I was laid off in 2016 I thought I could get those unemployment benefits I was paying into the state like everybody else. But what they don’t tell you is that if you take your employers severance package they can deny your claim. I got zilch, it was fortunate enough I found work a week later, but if I didn’t I’d probably be another homeless statistic. This state is a monster that needs to be slain. Well, that is the point of severance though. If you wanted the state benefits, you could choose not to accept the severance. Shifting the burden to support you to your next job on the employer letting you go, rather than the state. Why is this a bad thing? This is the most capitalistic/libertarian option of all.
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Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:42 pm |
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PMB
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root wrote: Ace wrote: Look I’m a resonable guy a steady worker, and when I was laid off in 2016 I thought I could get those unemployment benefits I was paying into the state like everybody else. But what they don’t tell you is that if you take your employers severance package they can deny your claim. I got zilch, it was fortunate enough I found work a week later, but if I didn’t I’d probably be another homeless statistic. This state is a monster that needs to be slain. Well, that is the point of severance though. If you wanted the state benefits, you could choose not to accept the severance. Shifting the burden to support you to your next job on the employer letting you go, rather than the state. Why is this a bad thing? This is the most capitalistic/libertarian option of all. Agreed. Never been a fan.
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Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:44 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 18454
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In 2017, there were a total of 87,562 births. I made a nice graph.... So, if births are to stay at the same level..... So, average wage is $1,190, but max payout is 1k$ per week.... 12 weeks @ 1k$ per week = $12,000 So, 87,562 * $12,000 = $1,050,744,000 a year. Now, state estimates 3,446,800 workers, with deductions averaging $3.85/week per person. So, 3,446,800 * 3.85 = $13,270,180 per wk in estimated revenue... $13,270,180 * 52 weeks = $690,049,360 Now, I'm no rocket surgeon... But.... $690,049,360 in estimated revenue. $1,050,744,000 in estimated payments. $690,049,360 coming in $1,050,744,000 going out That's a deficit of $360,694,640 per year.. and that's JUST births.... It doesn't take into account other FMLA issues like cancer, long term illness, etc. Nor does it include administration costs, employees, training, etc etc. I'm thinking this is a test case to see if someone complains and if it survives a court challenge.
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Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:03 pm |
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Col_Temp
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Location: Lake Stevens Joined: Fri Jan 3, 2014 Posts: 6213
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Yep this is basically the same scam the Social Security and Medicare are. Everyone pays in, most do not benefit. Watch for the amount to balloon once they start as well. And everyone gets to report quarterly. 8-5 workers will be easy but not those who work odd hours or a shifting schedule. Like business taxes its a 0.4% of gross salary. So if your employer has as part of your pay a supplemental amount that you use to pay for the companies medical etc with, The state now gets a cut of that too!
And add to all of this the $7,400 or so a year our liberal governor wants from everyone in new taxes.
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Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:13 pm |
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Powderman
Location: WA State Joined: Fri Feb 8, 2013 Posts: 658
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jackass wrote: So there is no WA state income tax. But other taxes just get slipped in there.
Now everyone will try to get into this game. Look for redefinition of the family and supported activities.
When will illegal aliens get this?
Every employee in the state of Washington will pay into the program that was approved by the Legislature in 2017 [whether you want to or not]. Self-employed individuals who elect coverage pay only the employee share of the premiums, and employers with 50 or fewer employees are exempt from paying the employer share. Companies that already offer such programs can apply for a waiver, as long as the benefit the company offers is at least equivalent to the state program.
According to the Employment Security Department, an employee making $50,000 a year would pay about $2.44 a week[death by a thousand cuts], while their employer would pay about $1.41 a week, for a weekly benefit of about $778. Nope. No State income tax. But here comes good ol' Jay, running up behind us with one hand reaching for his belt buckle, and the other holding a jar of Vaseline. Be afraid. Be VERY afraid.
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Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:34 pm |
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Pablo
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Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28178
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TechnoWeenie wrote: In 2017, there were a total of 87,562 births. I made a nice graph.... So, if births are to stay at the same level..... So, average wage is $1,190, but max payout is 1k$ per week.... 12 weeks @ 1k$ per week = $12,000 So, 87,562 * $12,000 = $1,050,744,000 a year. Now, state estimates 3,446,800 workers, with deductions averaging $3.85/week per person. So, 3,446,800 * 3.85 = $13,270,180 per wk in estimated revenue... $13,270,180 * 52 weeks = $690,049,360 Now, I'm no rocket surgeon... But.... $690,049,360 in estimated revenue. $1,050,744,000 in estimated payments. $690,049,360 coming in $1,050,744,000 going out That's a deficit of $360,694,640 per year.. and that's JUST births.... It doesn't take into account other FMLA issues like cancer, long term illness, etc. Nor does it include administration costs, employees, training, etc etc. I'm thinking this is a test case to see if someone complains and if it survives a court challenge. Employer portion is 2/3 I believe. I think you left that out
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