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Declare national emergency to build wall w/out congress?
Declare national emergency to build wall w/out congress?
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PMB
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root wrote: PMB wrote: That's not what he said at all. Creative reading with anti-POTUS shaded reading glasses have to be applied to get that out of it. Quote: Mexico is paying for the Wall through the new USMCA Trade Deal. Much of the Wall has already been fully renovated or built. We have done a lot of work. $5.6 Billion Dollars that House has approved is very little in comparison to the benefits of National Security. Quick payback! Mexico aint paying for shit. The trade deals go to the companies who benefit. (Who totes dont use creative accounting to not pay taxes.) He said the wall is mostly done, a wall that is a joke. A wall that is easily circumvented. Its like demanding that you write a program in punchcards these days. Funny that you can point out the incorrectness of President Trump's tweet, but still spout completely incorrect stuff yourself. root wrote: The POTUS said the wall is done, Mexico paid for it, so what are we debating about? He didn't say either one of those things. You can follow the MSM talking heads and find flaws with it, or you can take the "POTUS does nothing wrong" crowd and photoshop Trump on a white unicorn vanquishing the foes of America, or you can spend about 1.5 seconds and see what he is actually trying to say and just move on. Did he word his tweet perfectly? LOL Who does?
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Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:14 pm |
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root
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PMB wrote: root wrote: PMB wrote: That's not what he said at all. Creative reading with anti-POTUS shaded reading glasses have to be applied to get that out of it. Quote: Mexico is paying for the Wall through the new USMCA Trade Deal. Much of the Wall has already been fully renovated or built. We have done a lot of work. $5.6 Billion Dollars that House has approved is very little in comparison to the benefits of National Security. Quick payback! Mexico aint paying for shit. The trade deals go to the companies who benefit. (Who totes dont use creative accounting to not pay taxes.) He said the wall is mostly done, a wall that is a joke. A wall that is easily circumvented. Its like demanding that you write a program in punchcards these days. Funny that you can point out the incorrectness of President Trump's tweet, but still spout completely incorrect stuff yourself. root wrote: The POTUS said the wall is done, Mexico paid for it, so what are we debating about? He didn't say either one of those things. You can follow the MSM talking heads and find flaws with it, or you can take the "POTUS does nothing wrong" crowd and photoshop Trump on a white unicorn vanquishing the foes of America, or you can spend about 1.5 seconds and see what he is actually trying to say and just move on. Did he word his tweet perfectly? LOL Who does? He said it was MOSTLY done. So he is implying that he got most of this done already. So why are we shutting down over this? He lambasted Obama for his shutdowns, but his are OK? No, he shouldnt be tweeting every fucking hour on whatever god damn thing goes through his head. He should be working. Not avoiding going to Arlington on god damn VETERANS DAY, or calling for bans on BUMPSTOCKs. Or calling for TAKING THE GUNS FIRST then deal with the court. These are all things he has said and done. Yet, lets focus on Hillary more. Amirite? And YES, he should be perfectly fine with the MSM vilifying him. Its his damn job. Every President has to deal with it, they would pay less attention to him, if he could just SHUT UP for 5 minutes. He can't he is a Celebrity. He bathes in this, and loves it, so why should any of his supporters be upset by it?
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CQBgopher
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root
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dan360 wrote: Of the roughly 1,900 miles of border between US-Mexico there is containment on about roughly a third of it.
It is scattered, and many of the areas where there is no “wall” are very difficult to traverse. The uncontained areas that are reasonably accessible, albeit still rather dangerous from a logistics standpoint, are now acting as a pinch chute.
Good plan all considered but when you focus a wide area of energy on a small target, you set the ant on fire.
If Wilson Contruction can build a transmission line from Lake Tyee to Swan Lake in SE Alaska, if the Trans-Alaska Pipeline could happen, if the Eisenhower Highway System could happen, The United States of America should be able to construct a “wall” along the border. It’s not difficult, and has been approved more than a few times.
The bleeding heart ultra left sensationalist agenda is making this out to be just like the Berlin Wall which is a ghastly horrendously insulting thing to even think. But that’s what ultra left immature temper tantrum thrower types do because it works. Hell, and 90% of the WALL is just really good fencing. As it should be. Border security is not a trivial thing, nor should it be treated as such.
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Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:26 pm |
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PMB
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root wrote: He said it was MOSTLY done. So he is implying that he got most of this done already. So why are we shutting down over this? He lambasted Obama for his shutdowns, but his are OK?
No, he shouldnt be tweeting every fucking hour on whatever god damn thing goes through his head. He should be working. Not avoiding going to Arlington on god damn VETERANS DAY, or calling for bans on BUMPSTOCKs. Or calling for TAKING THE GUNS FIRST then deal with the court. These are all things he has said and done.
Yet, lets focus on Hillary more. Amirite?
And YES, he should be perfectly fine with the MSM vilifying him. Its his damn job. Every President has to deal with it, they would pay less attention to him, if he could just SHUT UP for 5 minutes.
He can't he is a Celebrity. He bathes in this, and loves it, so why should any of his supporters be upset by it? Again, your post drips with contempt for President Trump. You skip entirely what we are discussing, so that YOU can bring Hillary into the discussion. There was no need. There was no need to drip some contempt on his celebrity status or ego (although I understand your point), the Veteran's Day absence, the bumpstocks... We're talking about the wall and a poorly worded tweet. But to you, it's an opportunity to bring out the firehose of contempt and ridicule for President Trump and those of us who have the temerity to be happy that he won the 2016 election.
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Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:28 pm |
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Alpine
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When did the MSM VILIFY Obama? Even when he was literally abusing the media they didn't turn on him.
_________________If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
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Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:45 pm |
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root
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Alpine wrote: When did the MSM VILIFY Obama? Even when he was literally abusing the media they didn't turn on him. Is Fox News not MSM?
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Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:57 pm |
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Alpine
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Not really. They were treated as fringe media and even shut out of access a couple times under Obama.
_________________If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
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Alpine
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Ironically if the shutdown lasts until February the welfare programs like food stamps start shutting down. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/government ... ding-usda/Imagine the government meal ticket drying up...
_________________If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
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