This sounds like the same story as the one I linked. The person interviewed said the local got hold of the shooter's rifle and chased him out of the mosque with it. It will be interesting to see which version is accurate once the dust settles.

How many times do we have to say "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."?

Just a reminder too: In the past 30 days, there were 99 Islamic attacks in 20 countries, in which 701 people were killed and 697 injured.

Inshallah.

It can be extended to 'if it happens, it's because Allah wishes it to happen and one should not interfere'..

I agree, although the media is spinning the "loose gun laws"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... rifle.html

HOW DID HE ACQUIRE HIS WEAPON?

The alleged shooter also told people to subscribe to PewDiePie before the rampage.

And mentioned Candance Owens favorably. And Donald Trump.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ttack.html

The mention of Owens is a troll. He's trying to rile up both sides with the same statement



Here's his complete statement about Trump from his manifesto:



Who does he align with then?

It simply reinforces the idea that gun control is a total failed and dangerous policy. Bad people are going to do bad things regardless of silly laws in place. Good people can only run away, cower, or fight back. Turns out fighting back with guns is the best policy.

New Zealand's PM said today the shooter had a valid gun license and no criminal record but added that, "Our gun laws will change."

If law-abiding people can't own guns, who can?

Oh, hang on, I think I figured it out...

For those that haven't or won't watch the video but are curious, I'll describe.

Dude parks hatchback in an alley next to church. Opens rear, where there's two AR 15s (the one visible has a thumbhole stock, so it was hard to figure out what it was at first) and a semi-auto shotgun. He's wearing some sort of tac vest with magazines.

Left his car with open trunk and gun in plain view and walked probably 50 meters to the entrance of the Mosque, wide open gates. He passed a couple of people on the sidewalk. Walked another 20 meters right to the open entrance, opening fire as he walked. Fired about 1/2 dozen shotgun shells (until presumably empty) and then switched to his AR15 which he seemed to have slung.

Walked in and around the Mosque, in various chambers and rooms, shooting everyone. Nobody made an effective challenge to him. Everyone ran or cowered. Lots of bodies in rooms and hallways. Spent a lot of time shooting into piles of bodies, in the largest room. I'd estimate some 30 people in heaps in the corners of the rooms, and he fired a lot of rounds into them.

The firing was semi-auto. He did several magazine changes, and struggled with his AR a bit.

The tactics were really none. He was just brazen. Any of us armed with a gun could have defeated him. He wasn't apparently taking any good aiming stances, he was shooting while walking, at no time did he take any cover or concealment, and he seemed indecisive about what to do at times. He struggled with keeping his weapon(s) running. It did not appear to me to be anyone with any solid training, really.

Then he left thru the front, walked back to his parked car (still with open trunk and gun in plain view), and switched guns to the 2nd AR. He walked around a little and I think took some random shots at people in or around the Mosque. The video cut.

Probably a solid 5 minutes of carnage, and not a single police officer or siren could be seen or heard....

Lots of blame to go around. Blame the murderer. Yes. I think there's also blame for the Religion of Peace and its followers who are responsible for carnage like this more often and on a much larger scale. Just last week Jihadists killed 20 Christians in Africa and you probably didn't even hear about it. https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/03/*****ia-muslims-murder-over-20-christians-with-machetes-and-gunfire?fbclid=IwAR0INMjj26v7EqcF3L4vHpg19ZaLl1ah3bxpjnhiV6FEIbFIdwhTEY83MII

So on balance, while THESE people individually didn't provoke this, Islam has provoked it and as it spreads more of this is unfortunately going to happen. In both directions.

This is also a total failure for liberals and anti-gun policies that have infested the world. People should be able to own guns, carry guns, and post armed guards at schools and holy worship areas. It's unacceptable that any violent person could just walk in and murder people. This isn't a gun violence problem - he would have been just as successful with a sword or firebombs.

The video I posted runs till he's back in the car and, I'm assuming, driving to the second mosque. I saw one report about TWO gunmen but I haven't been able to verify that. Authorities have three people in custody but it's unknown if the two besides the known shooter had anything to do with it or if they were just armed civies caught up in the mess

As LC pointed out, nobody fought back at the first mosque. The death toll there was 41. At the second mosque there are reports that someone fought back and got control of one of the shooters rifles. The death toll there was 7. One person died later in the hospital but I'm not sure which mosque they came from

Now that Muslims are the protected class and can do no wrong, media/lefties blatantly ignore gays getting tossed off of rooftops, children being sold into sex slavery, wholesale murdering of Christians, etc. an event like this was only a matter of time.

And again, instead of starting a conversation about how things got this bad, it immediately moves to 'white supremacy' and further pushing of the 'Muslims are victims and need protecting' agenda.

killing innocent people never solves anything, so don't think I'm condoning his actions... But I could definitely see how someone could feel they had no other choice. Shit, look at the 'no go' zones in various countries... When a reporter is threatened with arrest for wanting to walk down the street because she not wearing a hijab and someone might get upset, there's a fucking problem.

Mosque killer: I'm a socialist 'eco-fascist'

https://www.wnd.com/2019/03/mosque-kill ... efinition/


THE LOOK ON MY SHOCKED FACE 0_0

view at your own risk


http://deathandreality.com/wp-content/u ... 2.mp4?id=0


full 17 min
https://theync.com/full-17min-new-zeala ... -video.htm






http://deathandreality.com/wp-content/u ... m.mp4?id=1


one getting arrested.......

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=uuYnB_1552651950






Three men and one woman are in custody;
Sources have told Stuff.co.nz that 30 are feared dead;
A manifesto circulating online claims that a shooter involved in the attack is an Australian man who was living in New Zealand temporarily;
Central Christchurch remains in lockdown, with schools, council buildings and other public facilities shut;
Police have urged mosques across the country to close; and



resume normal programing......

Well put Mr Rencorp.

I impressed on my children the importance of never losing the ability to think clearly and then giving up... Continue to assess situations even as they become high stress.

Teach the children.

None of those people had a single chance at defending themselves. SO sad.