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cdoniguian wrote:Nope, and... Nope.
Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:59 am
zombie66 wrote:cdoniguian wrote:Nope, and... Nope.
I also dont really know the back story
Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:23 am
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velillen wrote:zombie66 wrote:cdoniguian wrote:Nope, and... Nope.
I also dont really know the back story
The backstory was pretty much Henry Ford II getting the shaft from Enzo Ferrari and then developing his own race program.
Bit more detail... Enzo Ferrari was majorly into racing but hated the consumer side (ie selling to normal people). Built up an awesome race program that won Le Mans and tons of races in the early-mid 60's. But company never really did well consumer wise...basically enough to fund the race program and thats it. Ford wanted to add a sports car to the line up (they had none in the early 60s) and Enzo Ferrari was looking to sell day to day Ferrari. So Ford went to Ferrari, spent millions audting and negotiating. Had a deal pretty much lined up and then Enzo just walked away over Ford having control of the budget and decisions of the Ferrari Race Program. Ferrari then sold a majority stake to Fiat instead. Enzo said some stuff towards Ford (both Henry Ford II and Ford in general). That pissed Henry Ford II off who then went and started the Ford GT40 program with pretty much the sole purpose of beating Ferrari.
Obviously the short version but gives the gist of the backstory.
Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:41 am
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Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:21 am
zombie66 wrote:cdoniguian wrote:Nope, and... Nope.
Care to enlighten us as to your reason/s?
I also dont really know the back story
I really wanna see it
Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:33 am
Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:49 am
TINCANBANDIT wrote:velillen wrote:zombie66 wrote:cdoniguian wrote:Nope, and... Nope.
I also dont really know the back story
The backstory was pretty much Henry Ford II getting the shaft from Enzo Ferrari and then developing his own race program.
Bit more detail... Enzo Ferrari was majorly into racing but hated the consumer side (ie selling to normal people). Built up an awesome race program that won Le Mans and tons of races in the early-mid 60's. But company never really did well consumer wise...basically enough to fund the race program and thats it. Ford wanted to add a sports car to the line up (they had none in the early 60s) and Enzo Ferrari was looking to sell day to day Ferrari. So Ford went to Ferrari, spent millions audting and negotiating. Had a deal pretty much lined up and then Enzo just walked away over Ford having control of the budget and decisions of the Ferrari Race Program. Ferrari then sold a majority stake to Fiat instead. Enzo said some stuff towards Ford (both Henry Ford II and Ford in general). That pissed Henry Ford II off who then went and started the Ford GT40 program with pretty much the sole purpose of beating Ferrari.
Obviously the short version but gives the gist of the backstory.
Ford didn't just beat Ferrari, they embarrassed them, they beat everyone for 3 or 4 years in a row, Ferrari dropped out and then Ford figured they proved their point
Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:43 pm