Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:59 pm
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zombie66 wrote:Im am curious to see what it looks like with a Glock 19 or 45 in it....
Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:58 pm
Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:21 pm
MadPick wrote:Sinus211 and I both pre-ordered this when we were at SHOT Show this past January. He ordered his first, so the main purpose of this thread is to gloat that I received before he received his.
Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:24 pm
Sinus211 wrote:Nice review fuckhead.
Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:40 pm
Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:05 pm
Yondering wrote:Interesting stuff. I'll be interested to try one of these at some point. I've done the Endo/Shockwave setup on mine, and this looks like it's probably at least as good, with the added bonus of the folding brace.
How thick is the whole thing in shooting position, without the added side rails? It looks like it adds a lot of thickness, but hard to tell from your pics.
Oh, and a slide-mounted red dot sight makes a huge difference in ease of shooting these things. You really have to try it to see how much better it is.
Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:00 pm
Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:36 pm
Sinus211 wrote:Slide mounted red dot will be mentioned when mine shows up. Plus suppressor. Plus weapon light.
Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:24 pm
Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:27 pm
Yondering wrote:Sinus211 wrote:Slide mounted red dot will be mentioned when mine shows up. Plus suppressor. Plus weapon light.
Here's an old pic of my setup (maybe 5-6 years ago? I forget exactly). It worked pretty well, but my main complaint was based on the flexibility of the Glock frame; it resulted in vertical stringing, enough to be noticeable at 25 yards and was pretty sensitive to how I held it. Otherwise it was pretty good and was used to good effect on a few varmints in the yard. I'm interested to hear if this 20/20 setup solves that flex and stringing issue; it looks like it might.
Still, I liked that setup a LOT better than a Roni or other chassis systems. I considered buying one of those Sig 320 grip modules with the folding brace attachment, but sold my 320.
One advantage of the Endo/brace setup was the speed to attach it; less than 30 seconds tops. The suppressor and light were also quick attach setups, so it could switch between pseudo-carbine and carry pistol in about 1 minute.
In comparison, how long does it take to attach this 20/20 unit? (I'm not asking to point out anything bad if it's slow, just genuinely curious in potential improvements to this concept since I've used it for a number of years already.)
Note for those concerned about legalities of a brace and shouldering (it seems to be OK now, but the ATF has flip-flopped on that before) - a very short setup like this can be braced against the shooting hand bicep and used pretty effectively; it doesn't necessarily have to be shouldered. This one is much smaller than it looks in the pic.