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Didn't see a thread for this place so I'll open one up. Didn't want to post it in their sub-forum because the moderator there is the store and they might delete this post.

A few years ago their prices were pretty good. Over the years I've purchased several pistols and rifles from them at different price points. They never had super rare stuff and occasionally I had issues with staff attitudes. The owner also seemed kind of smug and condescending and I found I often preferred shopping there when he wasn't in the store as he had sometimes made rude comments about inquires on pricing or other questions. Definitely not the most welcoming environment for those new to firearms.

Over time OE/Sportco and FWDG started beating them more and more on price. Ammo was never that great a deal compared to Walmart or Ammoseek.

Some issues I had with this shop for business stuff were:
telling me they had something over the phone, driving down there and suddenly its out of stock but look at this! classic bait and switch
taking customers out of order even when I had been in there first and waiting for help and then ignoring me when I pointed it out
condescending attitude towards new shooters with lots of questions
got nasty when asked to dry fire a pistol ONE TIME that I wound up buying, and they didn't even offer snap caps for customers to use

And now the elephant in the room:
Earlier in 2018 the owner decided to appoint himself the de-facto ambassador of the "gun community" and offer a bogus compromise where he wanted to trade raising the age to buy common semi automatic rifles with a nebulous promise not to ban them or magazines. He then said his store was going to enact this policy. He also said he'd make exceptions for 18-20 year olds who had made it through basic training/bootcamp/etc. Not only was this age discrimination, this was also disability discrimination too for all the 18 year-olds who could not join the military due to disability. He then started trying to say 'well, the parents can buy it and then do what they want with it' with an obvious implied reference for advocating straw purchases for parents to their children, which is both legally shocking for an FFL to say and also discriminatory to those who don't have living parents or who have anti-gun parents.
I tried reasoning with him and left a review on Yelp which he got removed when Yelp scrubbed all recent reviews due to his media blowup. He ignored my specific issue of 18 year olds who cannot join the military for medical reasons and left a garbled, misspelled response repeating his nonsensical approach.
I would strongly urge everyone to avoid this business. We do not need to enrich anyone who seeks to reduce the number of gun owners. Not only are 18 year olds adults who are legally responsible for themselves, but they can be drafted to die for their country. They should have the same self-defense rights as a 21 year old. Also, restricting 18-20 year olds will put more young people off of gun ownership and shrink our voting pool which will have bad gun control implications down the road. Do we really want to alienate 18-20 year old voters?

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What we are doing next
The Gun Safety Action Plan will continue to expand and evolve to ensure that King County is doing everything in power to stop senseless gun violence and make our communities safer. We value you as a partner in this fight and hope you will share your ideas and solutions with us here.
State law restricts our ability to enact many common sense changes that would go a long way toward preventing mass shootings.
Which is why:
It's time to lead or get out of the way
The Washington State Legislature enacted a preemptive ban on local jurisdictions from making laws that might limit the sale or possession of firearms in our state.
If the state preemption law is repealed, the King County Gun Safety Action Plan will immediately:
Ban semi-automatic, high velocity weapons: Ban the sale and possession of semi-automatic, high velocity weapons
Ban high capacity ammunition magazines: Ban the sale and possession of high capacity ammunition magazines


Wed May 02, 2018 11:01 am
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Wed May 02, 2018 11:06 am
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This is a review of the store. It includes something related to the other thread but its primarily a review.

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What we are doing next
The Gun Safety Action Plan will continue to expand and evolve to ensure that King County is doing everything in power to stop senseless gun violence and make our communities safer. We value you as a partner in this fight and hope you will share your ideas and solutions with us here.
State law restricts our ability to enact many common sense changes that would go a long way toward preventing mass shootings.
Which is why:
It's time to lead or get out of the way
The Washington State Legislature enacted a preemptive ban on local jurisdictions from making laws that might limit the sale or possession of firearms in our state.
If the state preemption law is repealed, the King County Gun Safety Action Plan will immediately:
Ban semi-automatic, high velocity weapons: Ban the sale and possession of semi-automatic, high velocity weapons
Ban high capacity ammunition magazines: Ban the sale and possession of high capacity ammunition magazines


Wed May 02, 2018 11:10 am
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Don't think he ever even responded to the shit storm he stirred up here as it is.

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Wed May 02, 2018 2:41 pm
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PM sent.

Rules against chit chat and irrelevant questions and comments still apply to our classifieds.

Dan already answered the question about why LPG is still allowed to post here.

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Wed May 02, 2018 2:55 pm
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Fair enough, thanks for the PM.

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Here's the gist of how I see it :
the LPG fellow is stubborn, prideful and even arrogant.
This is just like any other internet argument, even any other anti-2A argument.

We're not in the business of punishing someone for disagreeing with us. We should all be in the business of doing what it takes to maintain the Natural Right or God-Given Right to Keep and Bear Arms.
I -completely- disagree with LPG's self-aggrandizement and will vote with my pocketbook.
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I'm just going with the out-of-their-house & not in it for the money FFL guys from now on better prices and found one damn near across the road from me!

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PW45 wrote:
I'm just going with the out-of-their-house & not in it for the money FFL guys from now on better prices and found one damn near across the road from me!


That's how I used to do it until my guy built his own shop in Covington. Gotta admit though, it's more fun hanging out there than in his freezing garage was!


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My intention is to get a conversation started with the left, to call them on 'common sense' solutions they bring up other than outright bans. To learn about the entirely of what I'm suggestion, you would need to go to my facebook page for lowpriceguns, and read my 9 point suggestions. The most important thing to me concerning firearms, is to preserve my right to have ARs and hi cap mags.

I would suggest reading my yelp reviews prior to hate reviews from people who don't know me personally, or know what my intentions are. I have always given the best service at the best prices. Period. Reviews otherwise are only trying to smear me out of hate. I will continue to move in a direction to preserve my rights to own an AR and Hi Cap mags, and to give the best prices and service in the greater seattle area.

Jason - Owner Lowpriceguns

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"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance—that principle is contempt prior to investigation."


Thu May 10, 2018 2:49 pm
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Lowpriceguns wrote:
My intention is to get a conversation started with the left, to call them on 'common sense' solutions they bring up other than outright bans. To learn about the entirely of what I'm suggestion, you would need to go to my facebook page for lowpriceguns, and read my 9 point suggestions. The most important thing to me concerning firearms, is to preserve my right to have ARs and hi cap mags.

I would suggest reading my yelp reviews prior to hate reviews from people who don't know me personally, or know what my intentions are. I have always given the best service at the best prices. Period. Reviews otherwise are only trying to smear me out of hate. I will continue to move in a direction to preserve my rights to own an AR and Hi Cap mags, and to give the best prices and service in the greater seattle area.

Jason - Owner Lowpriceguns

Herbert Spenser quote:

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance—that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

Quoting this so he can't edit or delete it later.

That reply that he is copy/paste spamming everywhere is proof of his poor customer service skills. He literally didn't read my specific review of his store and ignored most of the parts of it that dealt with aspects of his business that have nothing to do with his recent discrimination policy change.

And about his absurd policy:
I'll repeat it here Jason, if you're going to exclude whole classes of citizens who are legally allowed to shop at your store it's not different than hanging up a sign that says "no coloreds allowed."

Shame on you.

Never thought I'd see the day when Wade's was no longer the worst Eastside gun shop.

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King County Council wants to KICK DOWN YOUR DOOR and TAKE YOUR GUNS
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https://kingcountycantwait.org/
What we are doing next
The Gun Safety Action Plan will continue to expand and evolve to ensure that King County is doing everything in power to stop senseless gun violence and make our communities safer. We value you as a partner in this fight and hope you will share your ideas and solutions with us here.
State law restricts our ability to enact many common sense changes that would go a long way toward preventing mass shootings.
Which is why:
It's time to lead or get out of the way
The Washington State Legislature enacted a preemptive ban on local jurisdictions from making laws that might limit the sale or possession of firearms in our state.
If the state preemption law is repealed, the King County Gun Safety Action Plan will immediately:
Ban semi-automatic, high velocity weapons: Ban the sale and possession of semi-automatic, high velocity weapons
Ban high capacity ammunition magazines: Ban the sale and possession of high capacity ammunition magazines


Thu May 10, 2018 5:48 pm
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I wish this guy would shut the fuck up and go back to spamming porn. We didn't ask for nor do we need him as a spokesperson and I for one do not fucking want him in my foxhole.

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I wish this guy would shut the fuck up and go back to spamming porn. We didn't ask for nor do we need him as a spokesperson and I for one do not fucking want him in my foxhole.


:bow:

I wish this guy would shut the fuck up. Period.

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Thu May 10, 2018 6:34 pm
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Sadly I can't even add them as a 'foe' because he's admin/mod? Damn, I thought that would be the best way to get rid of them, just block & ignore forever.

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I'm always amazed when he comments at all. Its difficult for me to believe that someone in the industry is this clueless on customer service as well as the politics of gun control. It's almost as if he did 15 minutes of Googling and then bounced his ideas off a high school SJW. JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND QUIT TALKING ON MY BEHALF.


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