Gun store Shooting Locations It is currently Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:44 pm


Rules Brads Guns Rainier Arms McCallen Killer Innovations Fessleman Firearms
WGO Chat Room Rehv Arms Vantage Reloading
Gear Fortis WCA 2A Ind. Pintos WAC
Calendar




Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ] 
 Drywall/sheetrock help needed. 
Author Message
User avatar

Location: Tacoma
Joined: Wed Jun 4, 2014
Posts: 195
Bathroom project still going on. Finished with all the demo and most of the prep work. I have 2 very small areas that I need help with mud finish. Pierce County Summit-Midland area.

One area is where I installed the metal corner beads, and for the life of me I can't get the area between them level and smooth. It's a small spot, roughly 7" by 42". Most all other areas are going to be tiled over, so no need for finish grade mud work. Very small area also where I had to patch the ceiling, but I think the texturing should hide it as is, but welcome to fix that too if interested.

Such a small area I doubt I'd be able to get someone out to even look at it so I'm looking for help here. There is someone mentioned here on the boards recently that is OK with very small jobs, but for the life of me I can't remember who it is. Any help out there?

Thanks,

Tony


Tue May 07, 2019 4:37 pm
Profile
User avatar

Location: Union Gap
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2016
Posts: 651
Real Name: Randall Knapp
Most likely the problem you are having is do to either your lack of putty knife technique or the knives themselves. You simply can not go down to most hardware stores and find knifes suitable for drywall work. Mine are from the 1950s


Wed May 08, 2019 9:57 pm
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: Port Orchard, WA
Joined: Thu Dec 1, 2011
Posts: 774
Real Name: Ryan
Pictures will help.


Thu May 09, 2019 8:16 am
Profile
User avatar

Location: Tacoma
Joined: Wed Jun 4, 2014
Posts: 195
Randall, maybe part of the issue, using tools I picked up at Lowes. I can't believe such a small area is causing such a headache, maybe much ado about nothing :frust:

Ryan, if I can't get it figured out I'll post a pic. It's trying to even up the low spot between the beads that's causing me grief. If it helps create a visual, if I lay a level/straight edge across the beads, there is about a 1/16th to just under 1/8th inch low spot.

I went over the areas with a damp sponge, which helped a lot. Ceiling is looking OK, texture will be the final tell but at this point looks like it should be fine.

As for the 7" x 42" column/partial wall, still has low spots so I guess its just a matter of laying on thin layers until it evens up? There will still be a low area between the beads which I don't think I'll be able to totally even out since they are so close together, about 7", it's really hard to even out unless I lay a bunch of mud in the middle, which I really don't want to do. The wall I had replaced had the same metal corner beads, and it had the same issue, the beads angled out slightly from the wall surface, and that was done by the builder/contractors.

edit: Added a skim coat, much closer. I think one light sanding and final skim coat should do it. I had one low corner on the ceiling patch that the primer revealed I evened up too. Almost there!


Thu May 09, 2019 12:48 pm
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: Bellingham Canada
Joined: Thu Jan 3, 2013
Posts: 3626
Real Name: Josheewa
Skim coat, sand, skim coat, sand...etc. Sand out wide around the repair for better blending using a can of texture. The texture hides most indiscretions. Takes a little practice.

_________________
Divided we fall.


Thu May 09, 2019 4:29 pm
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: Port Orchard, WA
Joined: Thu Dec 1, 2011
Posts: 774
Real Name: Ryan
I’m no expert, but an extra wide putty knife while applying the skim coat helps keep it level with the surface. From recent attempts on my own, a flexible putty knife can help drive it into the shallow spots. Below are what I’ve used, but my drywall job was hidden behind cabinets and it wasn’t a mission critical job.

Like the previous poster mentioned, apply, sand, apply, sand, repeat ad nauseam, until finished. The pink DAP spackling can help with indicating when you can reapply due to the color change.

Image


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro


Thu May 09, 2019 5:07 pm
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: kirkland
Joined: Wed May 1, 2013
Posts: 9498
Real Name: jim
you really need mud knives wider than that. That six inch knife is really a taping knife.

_________________
"The said constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ~ Samuel Adams

"I love Girl Scout Crack!" ~ usrifle

“A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli


Thu May 09, 2019 5:26 pm
Profile
User avatar

Location: Tacoma
Joined: Wed Jun 4, 2014
Posts: 195
I've been using a 6" to apply the tape, then a 12" to level it panel to panel.

As mentioned, the texture on ceiling should be good to go to hide small imperfections. The column is non textured, hence why I have to achieve a smooth finish. I expect it will be finished today, I'm pretty darned close.


Fri May 10, 2019 8:22 am
Profile
User avatar

Location: On your six
Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2018
Posts: 429
Never install tile directly over any form of sheetrock in a shower or tub back. It won't last 3-4 years before your studs will be moldy and starting to rot, plus the mold is toxic. . I have well over 20 years experience as a tile guy, including 15 years as a contractor

_________________
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt the Younger


Mon May 20, 2019 10:03 am
Profile
User avatar

Location: Tacoma
Joined: Wed Jun 4, 2014
Posts: 195
I was going to used Redguard or some type of membrane system. I'm also waiting on a bid from a contractor that really likes the Wedi system.

Cap', if you are interested can you come out and provide a bid? So far, only one wall of the shower is sheetrocked anyway, can easily be removed for something else. Tub will be a freestanding, with several inches of clearance on 3 sides, totally clear from the front.


Mon May 20, 2019 2:38 pm
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: I-5 /512
Joined: Thu Dec 8, 2011
Posts: 12835
Real Name: chris
trash what you got in that bathroom shower area and get backerboard (cement board) then use fiba tape with thin set motar.

_________________
Image


Mon May 20, 2019 3:36 pm
Profile
User avatar

Location: Tacoma
Joined: Wed Jun 4, 2014
Posts: 195
Cmica, that's why I'm trying to get some pro bids. Some say green sheetrock with Redgard is fine, some say cement board on walls or under shower pan is overkill, some say sheetrock and membrane is the way to go, others recommend a styro type system (Kerdi, Wedi, etc.). You tube vids are split about the same. Confusing to say the least! One reason this project has taken so long, I want to do it right and do it once without breaking the bank if possible. That's one reason I have done all the demo and prep, trying to save where I can so I can spend it in other areas.


Mon May 20, 2019 4:30 pm
Profile
Site Supporter
User avatar
Site Supporter

Location: kirkland
Joined: Wed May 1, 2013
Posts: 9498
Real Name: jim
I do Wedi. (I don't do Tacoma) It is the shit. Light weight/easy fast and clean to install. Can't mold. Impermeable without using redguard.

Costs a bit more.

Make sure your contractor trues your walls (makes the studs plumb and flat in relation to each other) which will make your tile sit flatter. If you are using plank tile make sure they stagger them with no more than a 1/3 overlap and use some kind of clip system or know how to avoid lippage. (more than a credit card thickness lippage is no bueno.)

_________________
"The said constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ~ Samuel Adams

"I love Girl Scout Crack!" ~ usrifle

“A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli


Mon May 20, 2019 4:58 pm
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 13 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum



Rent Me Pintos NRA SAF CCKRBA
Aldersons e-arms.com


Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Designed by ST Software for PTF.
[ Time : 0.579s | 15 Queries | GZIP : On ]