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movingviolation
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Location: Bonney Lake Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2011 Posts: 3294
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so my engine took a dump and dealer says it is at 70-80lbs in cylinders 7-8 instead of 400lbs compression, and spewing oil so they recommend rebuilding it or replacing it. and of course they want a shitload of money for it, 13K for just the motor... F that... I'm looking at buying a used engine and just swapping it out, 5K for the motor who in the south sound that can do that? needs to be fairly local as i don't want to tow it far called Plateau Diesel, they want 15K for a rebuild - no called H&H, they won't even touch it "because, liability" - wtf?
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Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:54 am |
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mustangfreek
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Location: Lk stevens area Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2012 Posts: 1919
Real Name: Jason
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5k for a used LS 5.3 or 6.0
Run away....., you can find complete motors for under a grand all day long
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:10 am |
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movingviolation
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Location: Bonney Lake Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2011 Posts: 3294
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mustangfreek wrote: 5k for a used LS 5.3 or 6.0
Run away....., you can find complete motors for under a grand all day long Its a LMM
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:15 am |
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Arisaka
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Location: Tacoma Joined: Sat May 4, 2013 Posts: 6194
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:12 am |
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stevemcgee
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I'm sure it'll be insulting, but to me a $6800 engine is to men what a $5000 gas stove is to a woman.
Personally I'd rather cut US GDP in half and everyone spends more time with their kids and community.
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:27 am |
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movingviolation
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Location: Bonney Lake Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2011 Posts: 3294
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with that i'd have to find someone competent enough to swap out all the externals, and there is an assload of them on this motor. i did a fuel rail swap couple of years ago and it took me 2 days to do it so with 7K for a motor the swap would probably cost another 5K. I really don't have that kind of money to dump in it at once I'd rather just do a straight swap and forget about it
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:30 am |
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movingviolation
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Location: Bonney Lake Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2011 Posts: 3294
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i found this one: https://carpartplanet.com/2008-chevrolet-silverado-2500-6-6l-vin-6.htmlyes it's got 96K on it. comes with 3 year/36K mile warranty, free shipping, no core charge maybe if i can get the swap done for 2-3K i will be ok. Keep the old motor and rebuild it and sell or sell to someone should get me some money back
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:41 am |
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Old Growth
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Location: Nisqually Valley Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2016 Posts: 4809
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Then if it shits on you, you have to PAY for another removal/install out of pocket and most likely they will find some way to dance around the warranty issue. A good friend of mine went thru this earlier this year. Replacement at dealer was 10K. Wrecking yard engine with warranty was 3500. Dealer charged 2500 to install. $6k total plus tax for used engine installed. Engine shit oil every where. Dealer says they replaced seals so they are not at fault. Claim the engine has a "bent crank" (complete bullshit) and wrecking yard (BnR) says its still runs so its not their problem. Chev dealership also ripped the plug in out of his electric rack n pinion steering and tells him his rack is bad but its not their fault. He was very frustrated and sold the car as a "mechanics special" for 2000 dollars two months ago. Do you plan to sell this truck or keep it along time? If it was mine Id put a brand new engine in it and figure out how to afford it. The only thing more expensive than doing it the right way is doing it TWICE. 6800 for a new engine aint bad. Hell, I just paid 5k for a 40hp diesel for the mini excavator!
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:00 am |
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movingviolation
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Location: Bonney Lake Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2011 Posts: 3294
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just talked to the Chevy dealer again, 13K is for motor+labor, 3 year/unlimited mileage warranty i'm not planning on selling it, i don't use it a whole lot, i got other vehicles that get way better gas mileage, truck is just to do grunt work - pull the boat, haul heavy shit when needed it's paid off so it's not a big burden keeping it. 140K on the truck, 6in lift, 35's, color matching canopy. FML, i just might have to bite the bullet and do it, selling it as "mechanic's special" i'd lose my ass on it, i'd bet i couldn't sell it for 10K in this shitty economy going to have to max out some credit cards
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:03 pm |
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RocketScott
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Location: Kentucky Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 Posts: 11045
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movingviolation wrote: just talked to the Chevy dealer again, 13K is for motor+labor, 3 year/unlimited mileage warranty i'm not planning on selling it, i don't use it a whole lot, i got other vehicles that get way better gas mileage, truck is just to do grunt work - pull the boat, haul heavy shit when needed it's paid off so it's not a big burden keeping it. 140K on the truck, 6in lift, 35's, color matching canopy. FML, i just might have to bite the bullet and do it, selling it as "mechanic's special" i'd lose my ass on it, i'd bet i couldn't sell it for 10K in this shitty economy going to have to max out some credit cards If you don't use it a lot it doesn't make sense to drop that kind of money on it. I'd look for a replacement engine from a wreck My van has a $300 engine and $150 transmission, both from craigslist. It will probably run forever. Had I bought a rebuild or spent more money I'm sure it would have crapped out by now Murphy's law is real
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:56 pm |
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movingviolation
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Location: Bonney Lake Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2011 Posts: 3294
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well, it isn't a POS beater either, it is in pretty good shape otherwise... dammit y'all got me all torn on what to do with it, lol
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:11 pm |
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38291
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.... how's your insurance? Full coverage? Shame that those motors like to spontaneously combust huh....
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:41 pm |
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Old Growth
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Location: Nisqually Valley Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2016 Posts: 4809
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RocketScott wrote: My van has a $300 engine and $150 transmission, both from craigslist. It will probably run forever. Had I bought a rebuild or spent more money I'm sure it would have crapped out by now
Murphy's law is real A $300 dollar gamble against a $7-8000 dollar gamble. Id want some protection if it were me. I buy $1-500 engines and trans for my old chevys all the time. But when I needed a tranny for my newer dodge ($2000+ tranny only- no labor) I went with a new/warranty unit. Sure I could have bought a used one for $600 and maybe it last ten years, maybe only one year? Lifes a gamble. Place your bet.
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:41 pm |
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RocketScott
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Location: Kentucky Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 Posts: 11045
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Old Growth wrote: A $300 dollar gamble against a $7-8000 dollar gamble. Id want some protection if it were me. I buy $1-500 engines and trans for my old chevys all the time. But when I needed a tranny for my newer dodge ($2000+ tranny only- no labor) I went with a new/warranty unit. Sure I could have bought a used one for $600 and maybe it last ten years, maybe only one year? Lifes a gamble. Place your bet. Sounds to me what you're saying is that you want your daily driver to be reliable, but for something used every now-and-again it's ok to wait for the right deal to come along and take the risk Which is what I was getting at
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:35 pm |
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Old Growth
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Location: Nisqually Valley Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2016 Posts: 4809
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RocketScott wrote: Old Growth wrote: A $300 dollar gamble against a $7-8000 dollar gamble. Id want some protection if it were me. I buy $1-500 engines and trans for my old chevys all the time. But when I needed a tranny for my newer dodge ($2000+ tranny only- no labor) I went with a new/warranty unit. Sure I could have bought a used one for $600 and maybe it last ten years, maybe only one year? Lifes a gamble. Place your bet. Sounds to me what you're saying is that you want your daily driver to be reliable, but for something used every now-and-again it's ok to wait for the right deal to come along and take the risk Which is what I was getting at Thats the EXACT opposite of what Im saying. I dont agree with fixing this duramax like you state AT ALL. I daily drive my halfa dozen old chevys. I drove the 78 shorty today to bid two jobs and get parts. I drove my old blazer yesterday. All weekend I drove my Impala. I haven't drove either of the doges in over a week. I drive the TWO nower dodges (one with diesel fuel tanks) and the other (with a flatbed and always hooked to a 24' trailer) every now and then. ( like when I haul things on trailer or need to refill the fuel tanks). I was saying that old chevy trannys are CHEAP, STRONG and PLENTIFUL. Just like your old 300sixer. Pretty SAFE gamble/bet. Hell, I have two fords here with engines and autos I will give to you for free. Finding GOOD used dodge auto is about as easy as finding a GOOD used duraturd engine. RISKY bet/gamble. Look at every duramax adyou can find "engine/tranny SOLD" is what they all say. If you do find one, who knows what kinda shape its in. They have all had a ton of miles with some overtuned up dieseltards foot up its ass before it got traded in and then the second owner is NOW parting it out due to a collision. My money is my money, and it fixes my trucks. Your money is your money and it fixes your trucks. The op will decide on whatever he feels comfortable doing. I was just offering my advice on what I would do when fixing a vehicle of a higher caliber than a $1200 pickemup truck, regardless of how often its used.
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