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Traut
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Location: Downtown Newcastle Joined: Sat Mar 5, 2016 Posts: 3446
Real Name: Traut
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Old Growth wrote: Put in more time at the range so you don't have to rely on that crutch.
Open sights have been killing things for hundreds of years. To coin a phrase.....OUCH!
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So, when does that "Old enough to know better" shit kick in??? I've learned that pleasing everyone is impossible, but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.
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Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:16 pm |
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8351
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Arisaka wrote: This thread has come full circle, and is now a circle jerk. You’re in the middle. Old Growth wrote: Put in more time at the range so you don't have to rely on that crutch.
Open sights have been killing things for hundreds of years. Devoting more time to a task doesn’t makes someone better at it.
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Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:53 pm |
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Yondering
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Location: Skagit County, in the woods Joined: Tue Apr 7, 2015 Posts: 1058
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dreadi wrote: The emitter is not enclosed! Not true at all. Look at an RMR closely; there is a small lens in front of the emitter, and the emitter is completely sealed off from the environment. Same for Leupold's DPP. I'm not sure why people repeat this stuff when it's pretty easy to check for yourself, except that they're just going by Aimpoint's marketing.
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Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:32 pm |
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Yondering
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Location: Skagit County, in the woods Joined: Tue Apr 7, 2015 Posts: 1058
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oldkim wrote: The newest RMR is the SRO from Trijicon. It’s enclosed and so has “fixed” this main issue.
The SRO is not any different than the RMR in that respect.
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Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:35 pm |
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Traut
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Location: Downtown Newcastle Joined: Sat Mar 5, 2016 Posts: 3446
Real Name: Traut
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dreadi wrote: Devoting more time to a task doesn’t makes someone better at it.
Works for me...sometimes. Guess there ain't no hope for some peeps. I'm all for recognizing my limititations. If not practice, what's your recommedation for improvement?
_________________ I always thought growing old would take a lot longer.....
So, when does that "Old enough to know better" shit kick in??? I've learned that pleasing everyone is impossible, but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.
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Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:39 pm |
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8351
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Yondering wrote: dreadi wrote: The emitter is not enclosed! Not true at all. Look at an RMR closely; there is a small lens in front of the emitter, and the emitter is completely sealed off from the environment. Same for Leupold's DPP. I'm not sure why people repeat this stuff when it's pretty easy to check for yourself, except that they're just going by Aimpoint's marketing. What you're saying is true and so is what I'm saying. When I say it's not enclosed, I'm saying that something can come in front and block it. Unlike in any red dot that I own on a AR such as a Sparc II, which is different design of course. Traut wrote: dreadi wrote: Devoting more time to a task doesn’t makes someone better at it.
Works for me...sometimes. Guess there ain't no hope for some peeps. I'm all for recognizing my limitations. If not practice, what's your recommendation for improvement? Correction and repetitive correction can improve efficiency and accuracy of a task. Correction can come in different forms. It could be mechanical, mental, auditory, or visual. The customer I was shooting with is also a trainer and part of our discussion was also about corrective lenses. He had to get progressive bifocal lenses. It could be that it's time for me to get a check-up. It could be that I have problems focusing on the front sight with certain irons. It might be time for fiber optic sights on more of my pistols...it really helped me when I was experimenting between two Ruger Mk .22 pistols. One with black on black and one with fiber on fiber. Or it could be that I've got a flinch that needs correction...mechanical and mental...
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Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:06 pm |
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NWGunner
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Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu May 2, 2013 Posts: 12474
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dreadi wrote: Correction and repetitive correction can improve efficiency and accuracy of a task. Correction can come in different forms. It could be mechanical, mental, auditory, or visual.
I'm confused... So, you do this without devoting more time to it?
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Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:24 pm |
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dreadi
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NWGunner wrote: dreadi wrote: Correction and repetitive correction can improve efficiency and accuracy of a task. Correction can come in different forms. It could be mechanical, mental, auditory, or visual.
I'm confused... So, you do this without devoting more time to it? Devoting time to repeating a task does not mean your repetition is performed correctly. Make sense now?
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Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:41 pm |
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NWGunner
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dreadi wrote: NWGunner wrote: dreadi wrote: Correction and repetitive correction can improve efficiency and accuracy of a task. Correction can come in different forms. It could be mechanical, mental, auditory, or visual.
I'm confused... So, you do this without devoting more time to it? Devoting time to repeating a task does not mean your repetition is performed correctly. Make sense now? You didn't say repetition in your original statement, you just said more time. More time can be an effort to learn in any of the methods you described.
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Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:46 pm |
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Traut
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Location: Downtown Newcastle Joined: Sat Mar 5, 2016 Posts: 3446
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I'm with ya now D. You seen the coke bottle progressives I got. Really raise hell when switching from scope to irons and reflex systems. Basically spending more time spinning your wheels doesn't equal improvement/progress. Always good to get your angle on a subject
_________________ I always thought growing old would take a lot longer.....
So, when does that "Old enough to know better" shit kick in??? I've learned that pleasing everyone is impossible, but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.
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Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:48 pm |
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jukk0u
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Traut wrote: Old Growth wrote: Put in more time at the range so you don't have to rely on that crutch.
Open sights have been killing things for hundreds of years. To coin a phrase.....OUCH! more time doesn't improve one's eyesight, though. and as far as eyeglasses go: I had progressive lenses and HATED them. ANY eyeglass is a dreadful compromise and inferior to regular good eyesight, but those progressive were terrible (for me). I had to tilt my head way back in order to focus on hand gun sights. That sucked and wasn't the best shooting posture. I also HATED having to turn my head to point my eyes through the narrow field of focus on the progressive lenses, instead of just shifting my eyes. Switched to bi-focals and solved the shooting stance and eyes-locked-forward issues of the progressives. True, there are only two magnifications on the bifocal instead of the near middle and far ranges of the progressives, but it's a trade off I am happy to make.
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Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:57 am |
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Old Growth
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Gadgets are no replacementt for practice.
Go thru a few bricks of 22lr every month. You will be surprised at the results. Practice dry firing also until your sight picture does not move.
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Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:07 am |
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dreadi
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Anyone using a red dot on their sidearms that has put at least a couple thousand rounds on?
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Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:10 pm |
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Guns4Liberty
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I had a S&W M&P Pro CORE 9mm with a Trijicon RMR on it...loved that pistol. I shot it extremely well, and the target acquisition was much faster than with iron sights. I've been eager to get another optics-ready pistol again, but my focus has been on other projects. I think the red dot is far superior to irons, and I'd much rather have it than not. It does limit holster options, though.
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Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:29 pm |
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quantsuff
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dreadi wrote: Anyone using a red dot on their sidearms that has put at least a couple thousand rounds on? cz p10c, vortex venom, ~ 6k rounds What's your ?
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Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:42 pm |
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