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Federal has a new brand of 22LR targeted for personal defense, featuring a 29gr nickel plated bullet traveling at 1,070 fps out of a 2" barrel.

https://www.guns.com/news/2021/04/15/ne ... al-defense

I personally don't think this is enough for a self defense round, am I missing something?


Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:02 am
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I wouldn't want to get shot with one, but I wouldn't trust my life to one, either.


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Probably be plenty for SD, but can it blow up the death star?

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I may not use this as my first choice of caliber as a primary cc weapon but it would make my back up cc in the ankle holster a lot lighter.

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22 works great for taking down world record Grizzly bear, why not SD?


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I'd rather have a 22 than a knife, and in the very small guns it may make the recoil manageable and allow for more rounds.

Of course I'd rather have a 9mm but if the small easily carried size means it's the difference between having a gun and not having one, I'd rather have it.


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I'd carry one as a secondary.

My concern wouldn't be lethality. I'm concerned about reliability. I want the round to cook off when struck, and it'd be just my luck to get the round that doesn't.

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I'd carry one as a secondary.

My concern wouldn't be lethality. I'm concerned about reliability. I want the round to cook off when struck, and it'd be just my luck to get the round that doesn't.


My thoughts also. You should see how many 22lr bullets I find on the ground at the pit that were struck but no boom. icon_eek
Tons of Remington Thunderbolts (total crap IMHO) and a lot of Federal.
It is very hard for me to trust any 22lr for SD so I’ll continue with my XDM40.

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Caveman Jim wrote:
Pvanderzee wrote:
I'd carry one as a secondary.

My concern wouldn't be lethality. I'm concerned about reliability. I want the round to cook off when struck, and it'd be just my luck to get the round that doesn't.


My thoughts also. You should see how many 22lr bullets I find on the ground at the pit that were struck but no boom. icon_eek
Tons of Remington Thunderbolts (total crap IMHO) and a lot of Federal.
It is very hard for me to trust any 22lr for SD so I’ll continue with my XDM40.

I thought 40s&w and 22lr had virtually identical ballistics. No? :bigsmile:

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Sinus211 wrote:
Caveman Jim wrote:
Pvanderzee wrote:
I'd carry one as a secondary.

My concern wouldn't be lethality. I'm concerned about reliability. I want the round to cook off when struck, and it'd be just my luck to get the round that doesn't.


My thoughts also. You should see how many 22lr bullets I find on the ground at the pit that were struck but no boom. icon_eek
Tons of Remington Thunderbolts (total crap IMHO) and a lot of Federal.
It is very hard for me to trust any 22lr for SD so I’ll continue with my XDM40.


I thought 40s&w and 22lr had virtually identical ballistics. No? :bigsmile:


Very close, except .22lr doesn't blow up guns. :ROFLMAO: :peep:

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Isildur wrote:
Sinus211 wrote:
Caveman Jim wrote:
Pvanderzee wrote:
I'd carry one as a secondary.

My concern wouldn't be lethality. I'm concerned about reliability. I want the round to cook off when struck, and it'd be just my luck to get the round that doesn't.


My thoughts also. You should see how many 22lr bullets I find on the ground at the pit that were struck but no boom. icon_eek
Tons of Remington Thunderbolts (total crap IMHO) and a lot of Federal.
It is very hard for me to trust any 22lr for SD so I’ll continue with my XDM40.


I thought 40s&w and 22lr had virtually identical ballistics. No? :bigsmile:


Very close, except .22lr doesn't blow up guns. :ROFLMAO: :peep:

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

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22 works great for taking down world record Grizzly bear, why not SD?


“One of the largest grizzlies I have ever heard of was killed by an Indian woman with one shot from an old single-shot .22 Stevens rifle.”
https://www.ammoland.com/2017/06/bella- ... z6stGiANXm

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I just don't feel that the rounds fire off as reliably as center fire ammo.

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Reliability is my first concern. A well placed shot is paramount, but not knowing reliable is a huge trade off


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Is my self defense weapon and American 180? If so, I'm in.


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