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I bought a Handgun from a member here on 9-22-19, did the transfer at Bullseye in Tacoma and I am stilllllll waiting to hear back....


Can I sue now?

All BS aside, I am getting a little frustrated as my understanding is that the paperwork is only good for 30 days correct?



Yes the BGC via 4473 is only valid for 30 calendar days.

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"The right of self defence is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any colour or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction." - St. George Tucker

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"To ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the innocent and law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless, and that the law will permit them to have only such rights and liberties as the lawless will allow...

For society does not control crime, ever, by forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of criminals. Society controls crime by forcing the criminals to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding." - Jeff Snyder

Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons. The possession of a good rifle, as well as the skill to use it well, truly makes a man the monarch of all he surveys. It realizes the ancient dream of the Jovian thunderbolt, and as such it is the embodiment of personal power. For this reason it exercises a curious influence over the minds of most men, and in its best examples it constitutes an object of affection unmatched by any other inanimate object.

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SUGGEST CASE BE SUBMITTED ON APPELLANT'S BRIEF. UNABLE TO OBTAIN ANY MONEY FROM CLIENTS TO BE PRESENT & ARGUE BRIEF.

The defense attorney's telegram to the clerk of the Supreme Court, March 29, 1939, in re United States. v. Miller.

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I don't want to be told that I can't remove the tree by some tree-hugging pole smoker from the eat-a-dick foundation/Olympia/King County.


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That’s 5 business days, so not as bad as I feared.


This lone sentence just pisses me off... Not at you Q... But just the fact that we are already complacent with it "only being 5 business days".


Yeah. I understand. It really just sucks because we’re at the mercy of these messed up rules.


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zombie66 wrote:
I bought a Handgun from a member here on 9-22-19, did the transfer at Bullseye in Tacoma and I am stilllllll waiting to hear back....


Can I sue now?

All BS aside, I am getting a little frustrated as my understanding is that the paperwork is only good for 30 days correct?



Yes the BGC via 4473 is only valid for 30 calendar days.



So I have to go back in and do the 4473 again??????


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zombie66 wrote:
I bought a Handgun from a member here on 9-22-19, did the transfer at Bullseye in Tacoma and I am stilllllll waiting to hear back....


Can I sue now?

All BS aside, I am getting a little frustrated as my understanding is that the paperwork is only good for 30 days correct?



Yes the BGC via 4473 is only valid for 30 calendar days.



So I have to go back in and do the 4473 again??????


The way it was explained to me is if it goes beyond 30 business days the whole effing process must be restarted.

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Without penetration data, the pics aren't of much use.

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"Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm -- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves." – T.S. Eliot

"The right of self defence is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any colour or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction." - St. George Tucker

A careful definition of words would destroy half the agenda of the political left and scrutinizing evidence would destroy the other half. - Thomas Sowell

"To ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the innocent and law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless, and that the law will permit them to have only such rights and liberties as the lawless will allow...

For society does not control crime, ever, by forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of criminals. Society controls crime by forcing the criminals to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding." - Jeff Snyder

Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons. The possession of a good rifle, as well as the skill to use it well, truly makes a man the monarch of all he surveys. It realizes the ancient dream of the Jovian thunderbolt, and as such it is the embodiment of personal power. For this reason it exercises a curious influence over the minds of most men, and in its best examples it constitutes an object of affection unmatched by any other inanimate object.

Jeff Cooper
1997 The Art of the Rifle Page 1.

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SUGGEST CASE BE SUBMITTED ON APPELLANT'S BRIEF. UNABLE TO OBTAIN ANY MONEY FROM CLIENTS TO BE PRESENT & ARGUE BRIEF.

The defense attorney's telegram to the clerk of the Supreme Court, March 29, 1939, in re United States. v. Miller.

You don't need to go to Law School to understand the constitutional implications of that.

“You can’t cut the throat of every cocksucker whose character it would improve.”
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I don't want to be told that I can't remove the tree by some tree-hugging pole smoker from the eat-a-dick foundation/Olympia/King County.


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jdhbulseye wrote:
zombie66 wrote:
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zombie66 wrote:
I bought a Handgun from a member here on 9-22-19, did the transfer at Bullseye in Tacoma and I am stilllllll waiting to hear back....


Can I sue now?

All BS aside, I am getting a little frustrated as my understanding is that the paperwork is only good for 30 days correct?



Yes the BGC via 4473 is only valid for 30 calendar days.



So I have to go back in and do the 4473 again??????


The way it was explained to me is if it goes beyond 30 business days the whole effing process must be restarted.


You will have to fill out a new 4473 after 30 days.
Since a NICS # was never issued, the BGC will not need to be resubmitted to the LEO.
Once LEO finally responds, then the NICS # and status will be entered on the "new" 4473.

If, in the old days, a dealer was issued a NICS # and the transaction was not completed, for whatever reason, within 30 days then the whole process starts over.

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Nitro_Guns wrote:
jdhbulseye wrote:
zombie66 wrote:
jdhbulseye wrote:
zombie66 wrote:
I bought a Handgun from a member here on 9-22-19, did the transfer at Bullseye in Tacoma and I am stilllllll waiting to hear back....


Can I sue now?

All BS aside, I am getting a little frustrated as my understanding is that the paperwork is only good for 30 days correct?



Yes the BGC via 4473 is only valid for 30 calendar days.



So I have to go back in and do the 4473 again??????


The way it was explained to me is if it goes beyond 30 business days the whole effing process must be restarted.


You will have to fill out a new 4473 after 30 days.
Since a NICS # was never issued, the BGC will not need to be resubmitted to the LEO.
Once LEO finally responds, then the NICS # and status will be entered on the "new" 4473.

If, in the old days, a dealer was issued a NICS # and the transaction was not completed, for whatever reason, within 30 days then the whole process starts over.

I wonder how that works for FFL's who say they will release after 10 business days? One FFL told me they will not release without a NICS #, other FFL's say they will.

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Nitro_Guns wrote:
jdhbulseye wrote:
zombie66 wrote:
jdhbulseye wrote:
zombie66 wrote:
I bought a Handgun from a member here on 9-22-19, did the transfer at Bullseye in Tacoma and I am stilllllll waiting to hear back....


Can I sue now?

All BS aside, I am getting a little frustrated as my understanding is that the paperwork is only good for 30 days correct?



Yes the BGC via 4473 is only valid for 30 calendar days.



So I have to go back in and do the 4473 again??????


The way it was explained to me is if it goes beyond 30 business days the whole effing process must be restarted.


You will have to fill out a new 4473 after 30 days.
Since a NICS # was never issued, the BGC will not need to be resubmitted to the LEO.
Once LEO finally responds, then the NICS # and status will be entered on the "new" 4473.

If, in the old days, a dealer was issued a NICS # and the transaction was not completed, for whatever reason, within 30 days then the whole process starts over.

I wonder how that works for FFL's who say they will release after 10 business days? One FFL told me they will not release without a NICS #, other FFL's say they will.




I dont fucking know anymore....


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LEA: King County Sheriff
Firearm type: Handgun
Paperwork completed: 10/2/19
Approval received: 10/15/19

Nine business days (Brads Guns).

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If the state continues with this HORSE CRAP, they need to make a portal for dealers to access and input the information themselves. You know... A WHOLE COPY OF THE NICS CHECK SYSTEM that also accesses the Are You Deranged? database.

Or, all that money they are collecting into the general fund from checks pertaining the semi auto rifles needs to distributed among agencies that process the checks so that they can hire and train more staff that are solely dedicated to this task.

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If the state continues with this HORSE CRAP, they need to make a portal for dealers to access and input the information themselves. You know... A WHOLE COPY OF THE NICS CHECK SYSTEM that also accesses the Are You Deranged? database.

Or, all that money they are collecting into the general fund from checks pertaining the semi auto rifles needs to distributed among agencies that process the checks so that they can hire and train more staff that are solely dedicated to this task.


That's rational, and that's why it will never happen.

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I finally got my pistol today on a “forced”
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I finally got my pistol today on a “forced”
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What's that mean? Did the FFL give it to you without the background check coming back? Shit . . . it's been almost a month, that's crazy.

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I finally got my pistol today on a “forced”
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What's that mean? Did the FFL give it to you without the background check coming back? Shit . . . it's been almost a month, that's crazy.



Ill assume it is that the state never got back to the FFL and FFL said “welp we have given the state more than 10 days” fuck if I know


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Good. We need more of that . . . but at the 10-day mark. thumbsup

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