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I love retro and would love for this to be my next project. (and my first SBR? and suppressor? < well, this is a pipe dream so dream big, no?)




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If you did it as a pistol build with something like a SBA3 adjustable brace it would be more affordable

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While it looks like a stock, it’s actually a 3D printed brace. There is no actual stock portion. Very similar to the KAK blade braces.

They’re made by a guy off ar15.com. I’ll link the thread that has the info if you’re interested.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Retro-style-pistol-Blade-Brace-wasn-t-someone-here-working-on-these-/123-744656/


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Those do look pretty cool!

There are comments on that ArfCom thread talking about how the threads on a recv'r ext/buffer tube might damage the "print layers".

How durable is a printed product like that? Will it take a dropping/bumping? Chip when cold?

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Question about the 3D printed brace. Does it have atf approval to be used as a brace?

I was under the impression pistol braces had to be approved in order to avoid accidental sbr

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jukk0u wrote:
Those do look pretty cool!

There are comments on that ArfCom thread talking about how the threads on a recv'r ext/buffer tube might damage the "print layers".

How durable is a printed product like that? Will it take a dropping/bumping? Chip when cold?
I don’t think anyone has beat on them enough to determine that. That would definitely be one of my concerns.


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Sinus211 wrote:
Question about the 3D printed brace. Does it have atf approval to be used as a brace?

I was under the impression pistol braces had to be approved in order to avoid accidental sbr
I guess they’re starting to fall into weird grey areas. Supposedly most of the new braces on the market apparently don’t have ATF approval.


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Decisions arbitrarily made by the (acting) Director of the BATFE Technology Branch are made for that one sample/example that was submitted.

Just because Joe Shit down the street received a letter for an identical firearm, it doesn't make your gun legal.
And all decisions are subject to be reversed on a whim by the whoever is director (or acting) at the time.

BATFE pretty much makes up their own rules, and goes down the road changing them when they see fit.

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Guntrader wrote:
Decisions arbitrarily made by the (acting) Director of the BATFE Technology Branch are made for that one sample/example that was submitted.

Just because Joe Shit down the street received a letter for an identical firearm, it doesn't make your gun legal.
And all decisions are subject to be reversed on a whim by the whoever is director (or acting) at the time.

BATFE pretty much makes up their own rules, and goes down the road changing them when they see fit.



Which is why no one should give a fuck about their useless and meaningless opinion enough to even think of asking about it. "Free men do not ask for permission" or some such platitude....

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If your looking to build a retro clone you’d better start collecting parts now. Parts that were once considered outdated and obsolete are now going for a premium. And that is if you can find them. Here is my Blackhawk Down inspired clone. Not 100% correct but still some highly sought after parts on it.
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Cool concept, didn't know they'd named a clone gun concept after him.

Let's take time to remember Gary Gordon, and so many others who gave all this weekend.

I agree with the ATFs arbitrary nature being utter BS. Folks need to stop sending them inquiries! I hate seein' that...

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Is it a clone if you put a brace on it?


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