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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38307
Real Name: Dan
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That’s an accurate summary.
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Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:43 pm |
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Pvanderzee
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Location: Bow Joined: Tue Apr 2, 2013 Posts: 2688
Real Name: Phill
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Better response than I thought they'd give. I'll be impressed if they keep selling them on their website.
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Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:58 pm |
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Sinus211
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Location: Marysville Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 Posts: 13503
Real Name: Mike
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Pvanderzee wrote: Better response than I thought they'd give. I'll be impressed if they keep selling them on their website. They are.
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Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:06 pm |
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Sinus211
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Location: Marysville Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 Posts: 13503
Real Name: Mike
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Here’s the letter from RBT’s (Rare Breed Trigger) attorney to the ATF.
Some fun facts. RBT is an offshoot of Spikes Tactical (I believe that’s the company, someone please correct it wrong). They opened RBT to shield Spikes from any potential backlash over this trigger. RBT’s records and “office” are all held within their lawyer’s physical address because it is extremely difficult to obtain a search warrant for a lawyer’s office due to the sensitive and privileged information that lawyers may be holding for their clients.
They had numerous experts inspect and certify the trigger as legal and non NFA before production. Including 2 former atf agents one of whom was FATD.
They quite literally stacked the deck and covered every base expecting the idiots at the ATF to overreach.
I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE THIS PLAY OUT IN COURT! Seriously. Goosebumps.
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Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:21 pm |
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jukk0u
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Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21260
Real Name: Vick Lagina
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_________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith
"The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ~ Samuel Adams
“A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli
Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu
FJB
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Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:32 pm |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52030
Real Name: Steve
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Oh, that's like porn . . . awesome video. He makes some damned good points, and he doesn't mince words while doing it!
_________________SteveBenefactor Life Member, National Rifle AssociationLife Member, Second Amendment FoundationPatriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of AmericaLife Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear ArmsLegal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy CoalitionMember, NAGR/NFGRPlease support the organizations that support all of us.Leave it cleaner than you found it.
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Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:55 pm |
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scrid2000
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Location: Pierce County Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2018 Posts: 1989
Real Name: Shane
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MadPick wrote: Oh, that's like porn . . . awesome video. He makes some damned good points, and he doesn't mince words while doing it! Guy definitely did his homework before getting started. I'm much more OK with the somewhat-ridiculous price for the FRT given what they were obviously preparing for.
_________________ Posts not legal advice.
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Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:18 pm |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52030
Real Name: Steve
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scrid2000 wrote: I'm much more OK with the somewhat-ridiculous price for the FRT given what they were obviously preparing for. No kidding. They've probably got a long road ahead of them, and as he says, their success may have an impact on many other issues that we care about.
_________________SteveBenefactor Life Member, National Rifle AssociationLife Member, Second Amendment FoundationPatriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of AmericaLife Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear ArmsLegal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy CoalitionMember, NAGR/NFGRPlease support the organizations that support all of us.Leave it cleaner than you found it.
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Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:20 pm |
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hkcavalier
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Location: NE WA Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 Posts: 5484
Real Name: The Dude
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Not sure why we're excited. Precedent doesn't seem to mean much in firearms cases. "We approved of it, now we don't."
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Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:40 pm |
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Sinus211
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Location: Marysville Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 Posts: 13503
Real Name: Mike
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Fap…fap..fap…….fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap!!!!!!!!!!!
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DM47
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Location: no longer in a van down by the river (... at least anywhere near South King County) Joined: Mon Mar 6, 2017 Posts: 1267
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MadPick wrote: Oh, that's like porn . . . awesome video. Sinus211 wrote: Fap…fap..fap…….fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap!!!!!!!!!!! Still, much kudos for standing up and making the fight. As already mentioned, they seem to have been prepared for this.
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shaggy
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Location: Snohomish Co Joined: Thu Sep 13, 2018 Posts: 1811
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5-10 years ago i suggested welding a spur on an the tail of an ak trigger on a few forums... It was about the time where they came out with this trigger, if i might have helped start this rolling...
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rdb241
Location: Spanaway Joined: Mon Jan 9, 2012 Posts: 575
Real Name: Rob
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_________________ A wise monkey, never monkeys with another monkey's monkey.
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jukk0u
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Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21260
Real Name: Vick Lagina
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Internal AFT emails show shennanigans https://www.ammoland.com/2021/08/if-pas ... show-much/“Let the fun begin,” Gary N. Schaible replied. As an aside, but for context, he’s the ATFer who had to provide testimonial cleanup in 1996 for the head of the National Firearms Act Branch after he was caught on videotape essentially admitting to institutional perjury: “Let me say that when we testify in court, we testify that the database is 100 percent accurate. That’s what we testify to, and we will always testify to that. As you probably well know, that may not be 100 percent true.” We'll see what else they say about RBT's FRT-15; they already asserted they were able to make it fire full-auto. Let's see the proof.
_________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith
"The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ~ Samuel Adams
“A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli
Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu
FJB
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SporkBoy
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Location: Deckerville Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2016 Posts: 2944
Real Name: Rob
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I heard about this new thing. Well, not heard but read it on the interwebs.
Fully semiautomatic. Must be true!
_________________ “The Democrats are playing you for a political chump and if you vote for them, not only are you a chump, you are a traitor to your race.”-Malcolm X
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