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Long overdue!

I have trouble accepting that paper is the reason that the current wait times are so ridiculously/unconstitutionally long, though.

It's enouraging that the ATF has those flow time reduction goals. I'm a little skeptical that flow time reduction is actually one of their goals, but hey, maybe I'm overly pessimistic here.

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SILENCER SATURDAY #205: The New ATF eForms – Form 4 Included

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2021/12/04/new-atf-eforms/

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Isildur wrote:
SILENCER SATURDAY #205: The New ATF eForms – Form 4 Included
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2021/12/04/new-atf-eforms/

WTF?!
They need to stop calling sound suppressors and sound moderators “silencers”!

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Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:57 pm
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My suspicion is that this will increase the wait time for Form 1s and decrease the wait time for Form 4s. Maybe both will be around 5 months?

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They need to stop calling sound suppressors and sound moderators “silencers”!


Talk to Congress, that's what they're called in the statutes.

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So now the ATF is toying with my emotions saying lesser wait times...

This is an advance notice to current eForms users about the upcoming launch of a new version of ATF eForms.
The goal of this “modernized eForms” is to provide ATF with an infusion of technology to provide better services to our industry members and the public. This much needed modernization will reduce the effort and time required to review and process ATF applications by incorporating online validations and other enhancements.
No action is needed at this time. However, there are some required steps you'll need to complete after the upgrade is finished.

Outage period

In order to facilitate this upgrade, eForms will be offline during the following time frame:

Upgrade Start: Friday, December 17 at 9 p.m.

Tentative Finish: Tuesday, December 21 at 6 a.m.

You can continue to use the existing eForms until the upgrade starts at 9 p.m. next Friday. During the upgrade time frame, however, eForms will be unavailable.

What you need to know
The web address of eForms is not changing. If you have bookmarked eForms in your browser, it will automatically access the new eForms.
Your eForms User ID is not changing. All your previous submissions will transfer to the new system.

Required steps after upgrade
We're updating the eForms login process to provide enhanced security and establish a trusted relationship between the user and ATF. Here's what you'll need to do after Dec. 21:
1. After the upgrade, you'll need to manually reset your password before you can log in for the first time.
2. Once you log in with your new password, the system will ask you to update your user profile information and create a security PIN.


What to expect
Once the upgrade is finished, you may notice a few changes in the eForms interface. Here's what to expect:
• ATF eForm 4 is coming back. After the upgrade, you will be able to submit the ATF Form 4 electronically through eForms.
• Electronic submission of ATF Forms 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6A, 9, 10 and 5300.11 with the required electronic documents.
• Electronic submission of fingerprint cards for ATF Form 4. You will be able to attach your “digital fingerprint cards” to your submission.
• Support for larger file attachments. The updated eForms will accept electronic documents up to 30 MB in size.
• Enhanced validations to ensure that the upfront validations of your data occur prior to submission.
• User PIN for validating the submission of all forms as part of the submission process.
• Self-service support for forgotten passwords and PINs.
• Rules of behavior that must be accepted to proceed with the use of eForms.
• “Ask the Expert” to send your questions to our subject matter experts.
• Use of smarter technology to improve customer service and build a foundation for future enhancements such as an Application Programming Interface (API) and Captcha.

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Email from the ATF today:

Government-backed terrorists wrote:
Dear eForms Users,

At this time, we find it necessary to make everyone aware of some problems many of you are experiencing with ATF’s shift of all licensing applications to cloud services to include the eForms application. We are working on all reported issues around the clock to ensure they are fixed as quickly as possible. The failing infrastructure of the original legacy eForms system required us to move to this new environment as expeditiously as possible. We are sorry that you have been experiencing problems as a result. There will be continuous fine tuning to ensure all applications are working in sync.

Unfortunately, anomalies still exist with registration, login, and other areas in the application, and we are triaging those issues in real time. The development team is actively working to improve your ability to access your accounts and to perform all functions in eForms quickly and reliably. Despite internal and industry testing these anomalies have still surfaced after launch. You should be seeing significant improvements in the coming hours and days. Once basic performance is stabilized beyond an acceptable level, we have several planned tasks to add and improve features over the coming months.

We apologize for any current problems that you are experiencing and are taking them very seriously. This new eForms is built to evolve rapidly and continuously. ATF has the support team in place to keep pushing improvements until eForms smoothly delivers the services needed by all users.

Mason B. McDaniel
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surevaliance wrote:
Isildur wrote:
SILENCER SATURDAY #205: The New ATF eForms – Form 4 Included
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2021/12/04/new-atf-eforms/

WTF?!
They need to stop calling sound suppressors and sound moderators “silencers”!


Sorry dude, but the man that invented/patented them called them silencers...

"Many of his patents were put into production through his company, originally named Maxim Silent Firearms Company and later the Maxim Silencer Company. " (quoted from https://www.range365.com/authors/ashley-hlebinsky/ )


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