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Multi-Caliber Suppressor?
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Liddlebit81
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Location: Napavine Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 Posts: 756
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What do you see yourself shooting suppressed the most? If you never shoot rimfire, then no reason to get a rimfire can. I started with dead air mask for 22, then obsidian 9 for both 9 and rimfire, then a 30 cal can for 300 blk or 308. I ended up buying more rimfire can more than anything else because it is just that much fun.
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Tue Mar 22, 2022 7:45 pm |
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8358
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joejmunro wrote: Ok, so I am getting the wisdom vibe...if I pivot from the multi cal to a specific cal how do I land on which caliber first? Classic collection of 9mm, 556, and 6.5 CM hosts, but which do I equip first? And recommendations for brand or manufacturer? Come me see me and get your hands on some cans with various platforms. You can do like a few of my customers have done, buy a few at one time and start out the gate running. No need to be onesies-twosies. BLACK HAMMER ARMS Type 07 Class 2 NFA Dealer http://www.blackhammerarms.comhttp://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarmshttps://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarmsGLOCK Certified Armourer
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Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:15 pm |
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Yondering
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Location: Skagit County, in the woods Joined: Tue Apr 7, 2015 Posts: 1058
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22 suppressor first unless you never shoot rimfire. If not then 9mm pistol can, then add a rifle can as soon as possible. If you shoot 6.5 CM and 5.56, wisdom suggests to get a 30 cal rifle can that you can use on both, and any other rifle (up to 30 cal) that you may get in the future.
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Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:26 pm |
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8358
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Yondering wrote: 22 suppressor first unless you never shoot rimfire. If not then 9mm pistol can, then add a rifle can as soon as possible. If you shoot 6.5 CM and 5.56, wisdom suggests to get a 30 cal rifle can that you can use on both, and any other rifle (up to 30 cal) that you may get in the future. When I see 5.56 and 6.5 CM, that tells me someone has different uses for each caliber, unless they are hunting coyotes with that 5.56 To me, that’s two different cans, for two different applications. The 6.5 CM to me is most likely a hunting rig and should be with its own class of silencers. The 5.56 to me is either a range toy, a home defense tool, or a weekend training tool. That’s a different class of silencer from a hunting can. BLACK HAMMER ARMS Type 07 Class 2 NFA Dealer http://www.blackhammerarms.comhttp://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarmshttps://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarmsGLOCK Certified Armourer
_________________BLACK HAMMER ARMSBuy A Suppressor http://www.silencershop.com/blackhammerarmsType 7 Class 2 SOT NFA Dealer 1911 Pistolsmithing Firearm Refinishing GLOCK Certified Armorer CMMG Authorized Dealer NEMO Arms Authorized Dealer http://www.blackhammerarms.comhttp://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarmshttps://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarms/
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Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:38 pm |
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Liddlebit81
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Location: Napavine Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 Posts: 756
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dreadi wrote: Yondering wrote: 22 suppressor first unless you never shoot rimfire. If not then 9mm pistol can, then add a rifle can as soon as possible. If you shoot 6.5 CM and 5.56, wisdom suggests to get a 30 cal rifle can that you can use on both, and any other rifle (up to 30 cal) that you may get in the future. When I see 5.56 and 6.5 CM, that tells me someone has different uses for each caliber, unless they are hunting coyotes with that 5.56 To me, that’s two different cans, for two different applications. The 6.5 CM to me is most likely a hunting rig and should be with its own class of silencers. The 5.56 to me is either a range toy, a home defense tool, or a weekend training tool. That’s a different class of silencer from a hunting can. BLACK HAMMER ARMS Type 07 Class 2 NFA Dealer http://www.blackhammerarms.comhttp://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarmshttps://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarmsGLOCK Certified Armourer This man knows his stuff:)
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Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:37 am |
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MoreCowbell432
Location: Seattle Eastside Joined: Wed Oct 6, 2021 Posts: 24
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joejmunro wrote: I don't own one, but am getting itchy to. I don't want to own several, yet, for each caliber.
Can anyone recommend a suppressor to use from 9mm, 223/556, 6.5 Creedmore...can 22lr be included?
For each caliber do I need to get the proper diameter end cap for the caliber? Get a dedicated 22lr can. They get dirty as hell and are a bitch to clean, even with a sonic cleaner, but worth having for sure. For the multi cal can Id consider something that is medium length or can be setup in a long or K config. I think that Silencerco omega 36m looks pretty interesting. Just depends on what calibers you plan to shoot. Something that covers pistols up to 9mm in size but also high power rifles would be pretty versatile.
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Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:52 pm |
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bubblewhip
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Location: Redmond Joined: Wed Jul 22, 2020 Posts: 975
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dreadi wrote: One suppressor to rule them all is over rated. Yes, there’s the Silencer Co Hybrid 46, Dead Air Primal, and Bowers 458. However as mentioned, you get the fun of 17oz on the front end of a platform that is no fun to have that much weight out front for long durations. A dedicated 22LR silencer will be about 3oz, or a multical rimfire silencer will be about 6oz. A dedicated .30 cal hunting silencer will be about 10oz. A dedicated duty silencer will be about 17oz. So what if it’s another $200 each time? I know a number of people that see the expense and it puts them off, however, they will gladly spend another $600 on a firearm. Well for that much you could be into a dedicated multical rimfire, or a dedicated 22LR with some money left over for lower velocity 22LR ammo. Most people aren’t going to outlive the life of their silencer. Your mileage may vary. BLACK HAMMER ARMS Type 07 Class 2 NFA Dealer http://www.blackhammerarms.comhttp://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarmshttps://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarmsGLOCK Certified Armourer Business owner who sells suppressors wants you to buy more than one suppressor.
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Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:29 pm |
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8358
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bubblewhip wrote: dreadi wrote: One suppressor to rule them all is over rated. Yes, there’s the Silencer Co Hybrid 46, Dead Air Primal, and Bowers 458. However as mentioned, you get the fun of 17oz on the front end of a platform that is no fun to have that much weight out front for long durations. A dedicated 22LR silencer will be about 3oz, or a multical rimfire silencer will be about 6oz. A dedicated .30 cal hunting silencer will be about 10oz. A dedicated duty silencer will be about 17oz. So what if it’s another $200 each time? I know a number of people that see the expense and it puts them off, however, they will gladly spend another $600 on a firearm. Well for that much you could be into a dedicated multical rimfire, or a dedicated 22LR with some money left over for lower velocity 22LR ammo. Most people aren’t going to outlive the life of their silencer. Your mileage may vary. BLACK HAMMER ARMS Type 07 Class 2 NFA Dealer http://www.blackhammerarms.comhttp://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarmshttps://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarmsGLOCK Certified Armourer Business owner who sells suppressors wants you to buy more than one suppressor. Of course. However, nothing I've said is misleading. An informed customer is a happy customer.
_________________BLACK HAMMER ARMSBuy A Suppressor http://www.silencershop.com/blackhammerarmsType 7 Class 2 SOT NFA Dealer 1911 Pistolsmithing Firearm Refinishing GLOCK Certified Armorer CMMG Authorized Dealer NEMO Arms Authorized Dealer http://www.blackhammerarms.comhttp://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarmshttps://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarms/
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Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:31 pm |
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oldkim
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Location: Maple Valley, WA Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 9266
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He (Dreadi) speaks from watching all the mistakes people make… over and over.
People are biased true but a happy customer returns
And Dreadi is in it for the long haul. He’s proven that time and time again.
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Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:05 pm |
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Seraphim38
Location: Woodinville Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 Posts: 203
Real Name: Christopher
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maybe to take a moment and explain a little bit further:
Suppressors made for 5.56 up to 6.5 Creed and larger are typically made from titanium or Inconel. They are typically welded shut and not able to be disassembled and cleaned by a user, and that is because the calibers that it is intended for usually have barrels long enough to burn enough powder and the projectiles are going so fast that they don't fill up with soot.
Pistol calibers are very commonly steel baffles with aluminum or titanium sleeves, and are frequently made to be user serviceable so that they can be disassembled and cleaned because they get dirty, faster.
22 caliber suppressors are tiny, because 22 needs less volume to suppress, but also because 22 caliber hosts are typically small guns. Having a big can on the front of a small gun is something that does not work well, obviously. That is why cans like the Silencerco Hybrid 46 might be capable of suppressing pistol and rifle calibers, if you put it on a handgun it will be possibly too large to use your iron sights and/or a small red dot, and will be really heavy.
Another item to mention is that a suppressor will often move your point of impact, meaning that you will have to re-zero red dots or optics to compensate for a suppressor. If you are hot-swapping a can from one host to another, you may have issues with having to re-zero frequently. This is another reason why the suppressor hobby is a slippery slope; once you get one on a host you want it to be zeroed and accurate every time, and want to make sure that it is concentric (properly mounted to avoid a baffle strike, which is very bad)
These are some of the reasons people will say to get suppressors for specific uses; rifle calibers, pistol calibers and .22 possibly.
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Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:38 am |
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17818
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I have a 7.62 for my .308 and below rifle. A .22LR for my .22LR rifles and pistols. And I will buy a .45 ACP for my 9mm and .45ACP pistols. So three total for all my guns from .22LR to .308/7.62.
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Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:53 pm |
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Yondering
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Location: Skagit County, in the woods Joined: Tue Apr 7, 2015 Posts: 1058
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dreadi wrote: Yondering wrote: 22 suppressor first unless you never shoot rimfire. If not then 9mm pistol can, then add a rifle can as soon as possible. If you shoot 6.5 CM and 5.56, wisdom suggests to get a 30 cal rifle can that you can use on both, and any other rifle (up to 30 cal) that you may get in the future. When I see 5.56 and 6.5 CM, that tells me someone has different uses for each caliber, unless they are hunting coyotes with that 5.56 To me, that’s two different cans, for two different applications. The 6.5 CM to me is most likely a hunting rig and should be with its own class of silencers. The 5.56 to me is either a range toy, a home defense tool, or a weekend training tool. That’s a different class of silencer from a hunting can. BLACK HAMMER ARMS Type 07 Class 2 NFA Dealer http://www.blackhammerarms.comhttp://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarmshttps://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarmsGLOCK Certified Armourer Maybe. Maybe not. That's a lot of assumptions you're making there. And the "6.5 CM to me is most likely a hunting rig" is pure comedy.
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Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:42 am |
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golddigger14s
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I'm thinking about getting this one for my pistols. https://www.silencershop.com/silencers/ ... ce-45.htmlIt comes with a booster, but what is the "piston". I'm a newbie for pistol suppressors.
_________________ "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson "Evil often triumphs, but never conquers." Joseph Roux
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Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:52 pm |
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Seraphim38
Location: Woodinville Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 Posts: 203
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on pistols that have a slide that moves backward and forward when cycled, a barrel typically gets angled up when the slide is back, then levels out when the slide moves forward. This movement where the barrel 'wags' up and down creates the need for a spring isolator, or "Neilson" device at the back of suppressor. A 'suppressor piston' is the part that screws onto the threaded barrel, and presses on a spring, inside of the "Nielson" device. it looks like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVXJcf3xL_cpistol suppressor pistons are thread-specific. From 22LR to 9mm are typically 1/2x28 standard. Sometimes you see metric on some guns. M13.5x1 as an example. 40-45ACP often use a 5/8x24 thread or M16x1.0LH.
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Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:20 pm |
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17818
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Thanks Sera, I'm thinking of going with the Griffon Resistance and their CAM-Loc piston system which will run about $715 for all three parts.
_________________ "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson "Evil often triumphs, but never conquers." Joseph Roux
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