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WitchyWoman
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Location: Wenatchee Joined: Mon May 16, 2022 Posts: 401
Real Name: Mina
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So as I understand it crooked Inslee and the rest of the crooks in Olympia passed an unjust law making any 80% build after 2019 illegal? How is that even enforceable? I mean how can a law criminalizing guns that probably 10's of thousands of WA citizens made that were legal at the time be enforced? I could see enforcing a law against guns made after July 2022 but years or even months before the law was passed? Is that even possible? The states lost its mind. I sure hope there is enough push back out there to repeal this and the mag ban. I really hope we don't go the way of California where years later nothing is done and it stays in place.
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Mon May 16, 2022 2:00 pm |
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bubblewhip
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Location: Redmond Joined: Wed Jul 22, 2020 Posts: 975
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Step 1: Find someone you want to arrest Step 2: Find some reason to get a warrant to search their property Step 3: Find a completed unsearlized firearm Step 4: subpoena credit card companies for financial transactions related to firearms stores and transactions. Step 5: through discovery subpoena records of inventory transactions of retailers who have have/can sell 80% post 2019 Step 6: find a transaction that relates to the 80% to the completed firearm Step 7: charge the suspect with possession of a ghost gun post 2019 manufacture.
That or dig through public form posts, twitter post, ect of stupid people on WA Gun forums talking about "My new P80! with a photo" and find out that they wrote that post after 2019.
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Mon May 16, 2022 2:05 pm |
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KeystoneCowboy
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Location: Burlington Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2012 Posts: 5999
Real Name: Kyle
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This should get good! Problem is WW, you're using logic and critical thinking. While BW is right about what they could do, it will still be hard to enforce. Say you didn't pay with a CC? Didn't buy online, or post about it online?
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Mon May 16, 2022 2:27 pm |
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bubblewhip
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Location: Redmond Joined: Wed Jul 22, 2020 Posts: 975
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The point isn't enforcing it for everyone.
The point is to enforce it on the people you don't like.
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Mon May 16, 2022 3:14 pm |
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cmica
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Location: I-5 /512 Joined: Thu Dec 8, 2011 Posts: 15231
Real Name: chris
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no such thing.....don't be like these guys. .
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Mon May 16, 2022 5:22 pm |
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shaggy
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Location: Snohomish Co Joined: Thu Sep 13, 2018 Posts: 1811
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bubblewhip wrote: Step 4: subpoena credit card companies for financial transactions related to firearms stores and transactions. Step 5: through discovery subpoena records of inventory transactions of retailers who have have/can sell 80% post 2019 Step 6: find a transaction that relates to the 80% to the completed firearm
The hard part here is proving that the gun in the order is indeed the one in question. Mabey someone wanted to build a second matching p80 to match one they built years before and bought at a gun show.
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Mon May 16, 2022 5:47 pm |
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PAPISJEEP
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Location: lewis county Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2011 Posts: 1777
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cmica wrote: no such thing.....don't be like these guys. . those guys drive me nuts
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Mon May 16, 2022 6:33 pm |
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Old Growth
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Location: Nisqually Valley Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2016 Posts: 4834
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Hows them credit cards and cheap internet shit treating ya now?
Spend Cash Local.
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Mon May 16, 2022 7:44 pm |
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bubblewhip
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Location: Redmond Joined: Wed Jul 22, 2020 Posts: 975
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shaggy wrote: bubblewhip wrote: Step 4: subpoena credit card companies for financial transactions related to firearms stores and transactions. Step 5: through discovery subpoena records of inventory transactions of retailers who have have/can sell 80% post 2019 Step 6: find a transaction that relates to the 80% to the completed firearm
The hard part here is proving that the gun in the order is indeed the one in question. Mabey someone wanted to build a second matching p80 to match one they built years before and bought at a gun show. You are mistaking "reasonable doubt" as fringe "off chance of innocence." If you got a transaction for that model, in that color and you have a completed gun in that model in that color, the onus is put on you to prove that it was a home made firearm produced before that date, likely with a counter evidence transaction of another 80% purchased before that date. There is a reason you have lawyers in court.
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Mon May 16, 2022 8:22 pm |
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hartcreek
Location: Union Gap Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2016 Posts: 1722
Real Name: Randall Knapp
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I have a milling machine so what is next charging people that have a scale plan and a chunk of aluminum?
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Mon May 16, 2022 8:48 pm |
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shaggy
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Location: Snohomish Co Joined: Thu Sep 13, 2018 Posts: 1811
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hartcreek wrote: I have a milling machine so what is next charging people that have a scale plan and a chunk of aluminum? I'm pretty sure you could build an open bolt, unrifled, blowback, sub-machinegun in a home depot parking lot with nothing more than a chamber reamer and a credit card.(Actually axe the chamber reamer.... i could boring bar a passable chamber on a harbor freight lathe) If any legal MG FFL's want to try that, i'd love to be in on their project. Hell hard mode, i bet i can design one with only harbor freight stuff...
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Tue May 17, 2022 7:37 pm |
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SporkBoy
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Location: Deckerville Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2016 Posts: 2944
Real Name: Rob
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A 3D printed modular component AR-10 lower reciever.
Which part gets the serial number?
How many parts can be sold or gifted before it's considered a firearm?
The fact that such questions are raised screams impairment and infringement.
It's all perfectly legal right now so whomever castigates such activity needs to ponder what new ex post facto law is coming down the pike to soon outlaw whatever current innocuous activity one presumes is "normal".
Tyranny knows no bounds.
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Wed May 18, 2022 3:53 pm |
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jukk0u
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Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21268
Real Name: Vick Lagina
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L.A. filed suit against polymer80. Recently a settlement was reached. Polymer80 took it up the kiester to the tune of $5M "Los Angeles City Attorney Hydee Feldstein Soto announced a $5 million settlement Tuesday in a lawsuit against Nevada-based Polymer80, permanently prohibiting the company from selling its “ghost gun” kits in the state without first conducting background checks of buyers and serializing its products. As part of the settlement, the company must pay $4 million in civil penalties, and its two founders must pay an additional $1 million in civil penalties." https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/202 ... dium=email
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52035
Real Name: Steve
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^ That is total bullshit.
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