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Final Ruling on Receivers to be Released Today
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Site Supporter   Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21266 Real Name: Vick Lagina 
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"ATF has posted the following corrections to the Final Rule which appeared in the Federal Register on April 26, 2022. The Final Rule, with these corrections, is effective in two days, August 24, 2022. This set of updates provides technical corrections to the Final Rule."
https://www.ammoland.com/2022/08/atf-fr ... L_CAMPAIGN) _________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith "The “A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu FJB |
| Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:55 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19463 Real Name: Rick
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I'm not pretending to be smart or anything close but all the gobbelygook was written so absolutely no one could understand it. Therefore the .feds can do whatever the fuck they want.
_________________ ‘What’s the point of being a citizen if an illegal gets all the benefits’ |
| Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:53 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28178 Real Name: Ace Winky
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AR15L wrote: I'm not pretending to be smart or anything close but all the gobbelygook was written so absolutely no one could understand it. Therefore the .feds can do whatever the fuck they want. Quiet. I'm still reading the comments. I'm waiting for someone to tell me what it means. Not. _________________ Why does the Penguin in Batman sound like a duck? Because the eagle sounds like a hawk. |
| Tue Aug 23, 2022 8:31 am |
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  Location: King County Joined: Thu Feb 3, 2022 Posts: 697 Real Name: Russ
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Pablo wrote: I'm waiting for someone to tell me what it means. "Ghost gun scary. ATF no like. ATF make illegal. No need congress, ATF is the law." |
| Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:02 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood/Bothell Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2014 Posts: 8562 Real Name: Curtis
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hkhnm wrote: Pablo wrote: I'm waiting for someone to tell me what it means. "Ghost gun scary. ATF no like. ATF make illegal. No need congress, ATF is the law." Nailed it! |
| Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:29 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Unincorporated Rural Pierce County Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2020 Posts: 1804
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...and "Ghost Gun" is whatever we say it is.
_________________ Liberals never met a slippery slope they didn't grease. I wish technology solved people issues. It seems to just reveal them. |
| Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:57 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17818 Real Name: Chuck
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_________________ "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson "Evil often triumphs, but never conquers." Joseph Roux |
| Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:55 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Pierce County Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2018 Posts: 1989 Real Name: Shane
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The big takeaway is that they changed the definition to clarify that the part that is the firearm is that part that houses the sear.
Interesting. Under their definitions for pistols, I think the slide would be the firearm on Glocks if not for the specific ruling that for glocks the frame is the grip. This revision makes no sense though: Quote: For example, an AK-type firearm with a short stock (i.e., pistol grip) is a pistol variant of an AK-type rifle, an AR-type firearm with a short stock (i.e., pistol grip) is a pistol variant of an AR-type rifle, and a revolving cylinder shotgun is a shotgun variant of a revolver. A pistol grip is a short stock now? That seems ominous. _________________ Posts not legal advice. |
| Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:20 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28178 Real Name: Ace Winky
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scrid2000 wrote: The big takeaway is that they changed the definition to clarify that the part that is the firearm is that part that houses the sear. Interesting. Under their definitions for pistols, I think the slide would be the firearm on Glocks if not for the specific ruling that for glocks the frame is the grip. This revision makes no sense though: Quote: For example, an AK-type firearm with a short stock (i.e., pistol grip) is a pistol variant of an AK-type rifle, an AR-type firearm with a short stock (i.e., pistol grip) is a pistol variant of an AR-type rifle, and a revolving cylinder shotgun is a shotgun variant of a revolver. A pistol grip is a short stock now? That seems ominous. That's just messed up ----------------------- Now what about previously constructed firearms? And again. Where is the clear pathway to legal serialization for the hobby builder? _________________ Why does the Penguin in Batman sound like a duck? Because the eagle sounds like a hawk. |
| Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:36 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Pierce County Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2018 Posts: 1989 Real Name: Shane
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Pablo wrote: Now what about previously constructed firearms? And again. Where is the clear pathway to legal serialization for the hobby builder? Unless they changed something, nothing about the new regulation requires serialization for privately made firearms or impacts existing ones, except that FFLs are required to serialize firearms they receive that don't already have serials. Washington straight up banned unserialized firearms made after 2019 beginning next March, but the federal regulations don't last I checked. _________________ Posts not legal advice. |
| Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:48 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28178 Real Name: Ace Winky
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scrid2000 wrote: Pablo wrote: Now what about previously constructed firearms? And again. Where is the clear pathway to legal serialization for the hobby builder? Unless they changed something, nothing about the new regulation requires serialization for privately made firearms or impacts existing ones, except that FFLs are required to serialize firearms they receive that don't already have serials. Washington straight up banned unserialized firearms made after 2019 beginning next March, but the federal regulations don't last I checked. Thanks. _________________ Why does the Penguin in Batman sound like a duck? Because the eagle sounds like a hawk. |
| Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:10 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Eatonville Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2020 Posts: 621 Real Name: Marcus
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So what's the hive mind think about the Texas ruling that came down that this is utter bull shit? And if this gets a good footing how many years will it be in the court system before text history and tradition are again confirmed by the supreme court and atf gets the pee pee slapped?
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| Sun Sep 04, 2022 9:21 am |
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 Location: Sodom & Gomorrah on Puget Sound Joined: Wed Nov 21, 2012 Posts: 1656
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Norman89 wrote: So what's the hive mind think about the Texas ruling that came down that this is utter bull shit? And if this gets a good footing how many years will it be in the court system before text history and tradition are again confirmed by the supreme court and atf gets the pee pee slapped? It needs to be not slapped, but rather chopped off, ground into sausage and force-fed right back to 'em. #ATFDelendaEst _________________ Joe Biden is not now, nor will he EVER be, my President. Psalms 109:8 #F---JoeBiden - NRA & SAF LIFE MEMBER The NRA: Fighting Democrat Terrorists with Military-Style Assault Weapons Since 1871. What have YOU done to defend your gun rights against the idiots in DC and Olympia today? |
| Sun Sep 04, 2022 4:35 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Eatonville Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2020 Posts: 621 Real Name: Marcus
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Diamondback wrote: Norman89 wrote: So what's the hive mind think about the Texas ruling that came down that this is utter bull shit? And if this gets a good footing how many years will it be in the court system before text history and tradition are again confirmed by the supreme court and atf gets the pee pee slapped? It needs to be not slapped, but rather chopped off, ground into sausage and force-fed right back to 'em. #ATFDelendaEst I absolutely agree, but I don't see it happening unfortunately. There is no holding toes to the fire for gov'mint, they have no reprocussion that I have seen in my lifetime |
| Sun Sep 04, 2022 6:20 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Snohomish Co Joined: Thu Sep 13, 2018 Posts: 1811
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How do i report illegal 80% recievers being sold with tools and parts? Last time i was in lowes they had 80% 4 wind shotguns, and all the parts and tools to complete them
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