Same old wives tales. Someone brings up the thumb thing and the PING thing every time there is a convo about Garands.The PING thing is unlikely to draw attention in a fire fight. The thumb thing, in so far as loading is concerned, appears to be impossible. I have tried to deliberately induce the thumb while loading. No can do. Simple physics. No two objects can occupy the same space simultaneously. The velocity and shape of a chambering cartridge kicks the thumb out of the way. No space to insert the thumb in front of the bolt with a loaded clip locked down. All bolt on thumb injuries I have seen were caused by not paying attention while inserting digits into an open action... not clips.
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Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:09 pm
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Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:52 pm
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Same old wives tales. Someone brings up the thumb thing and the PING thing every time there is a convo about Garands.The PING thing is unlikely to draw attention in a fire fight. The thumb thing, in so far as loading is concerned, appears to be impossible. I have tried to deliberately induce the thumb while loading. No can do. Simple physics. No two objects can occupy the same space simultaneously. The velocity and shape of a chambering cartridge kicks the thumb out of the way. No space to insert the thumb in front of the bolt with a loaded clip locked down. All bolt on thumb injuries I have seen were caused by not paying attention while inserting digits into an open action... not clips.
_________________ "I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." - Robert Heinlein
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Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:37 pm
usrifle
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That was my impression as well, although it might be argued that the video makes a suggestion but is not proof. Whatever.
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Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:47 pm
usrifle
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The thumb thing, in so far as loading is concerned, appears to be impossible. I have tried to deliberately induce the thumb while loading. No can do. Simple physics. No two objects can occupy the same space simultaneously. The velocity and shape of a chambering cartridge kicks the thumb out of the way. No space to insert the thumb in front of the bolt with a loaded clip locked down. All bolt on thumb injuries I have seen were caused by not paying attention while inserting digits into an open action... not clips.
_________________ "I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." - Robert Heinlein
Resistance to tyranny is always justified.
Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:12 pm
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Yup. That does not mean one can not use the hand blade approach, just that that is unnecessary and significantly slower. One of the major advantages of the Garand is that it can be reloaded from the pouch to a chambered round in 2 seconds. This means a steady one round every one to three seconds of aimed suppressive fire with little or no perceivable interruption of rate of fire due to reloading. That can not be done with a detachable magazine platform. Review the impact of the Garand during human wave attacks by North Korean and Chinese troops armed with AK's and SKS's. Literally means more hits with fewer rounds and more targets taken down PER ROUND due to the penetration obtainable with the 30-06. If your thumb should slip off the top round after locking in the clip, the bolt will knock your thumb out of the way. Now, it takes a fair amount of practice to attain fast reloading, but well worth the effort to exploit this advantage. I use two clips loaded with dummy rounds.
_________________ "I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." - Robert Heinlein
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Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:31 am
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