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jayd1981
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Location: Richland, WA Joined: Sun Nov 25, 2012 Posts: 633
Real Name: Jay
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The way I see it, you should be an adult or not. Not you have this right at 18, this at 21, etc. I got lucky enough and was stationed overseas at 19 and could drink legally. If they want you to be 21 to buy a rifle, have the balls to say a 20 yr old is a juvenile and not an adult.
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leadcounsel
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Location: Can't say Joined: Sun Sep 7, 2014 Posts: 8134
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Capn Blood
Location: On your six Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2018 Posts: 873
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NO compromise. Every time you give the left a cookie they are encouraged to take the entire bakery
_________________ Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt the Younger
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weimar_police
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Location: N Spokane Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2018 Posts: 29
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root wrote: Military recruiting age should be at 21 as well. I agree I can not justify that buying firearms, smoking or drinking is 21, yet at 17 you can get a waiver and join the military. The 18-20 yr olds I dealt with could be immature, but then so are many 30 or 40 yr olds. But if the law gets changed for that, then so should military service....
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Capn Blood
Location: On your six Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2018 Posts: 873
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Guntrader wrote: DSynger wrote: Speaking of history and Prohibition. The first wave of Prohibition didn't take. The women pushing for Prohibition then turned to their kids and prepared them for the Prohibition push that actually took effect. I see the kids from the shooting and realize we have lost. The next generation have been set on the path for doing away with the 2nd Amendment.
Women in WA had the right to vote from 1883 until taken away in 1888. Rabble rousers trying to ban alcohol and prostitution. Didn't get it back until 1910. http://www.historylink.org/File/5662And it has been downhill since then
_________________ Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt the Younger
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Selador
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Location: Index Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 Posts: 12963
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weimar_police wrote: root wrote: Military recruiting age should be at 21 as well. I agree I can not justify that buying firearms, smoking or drinking is 21, yet at 17 you can get a waiver and join the military. The 18-20 yr olds I dealt with could be immature, but then so are many 30 or 40 yr olds. But if the law gets changed for that, then so should military service.... Completely agreed.
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metrotps
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Location: Mountlake Terrace, WA Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2012 Posts: 259
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The age limit to buy a handgun is 21. That's prevented loads of shooting and murder in Chicago. Crime rates* (2016)
Violent crimes: Homicide 23.8[ Forcible rape 52.4 Robbery 353.6 Aggravated assault 480.2
Total violent crime 903.8
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hartcreek
Location: Union Gap Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2016 Posts: 1722
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You know damned well that the democrats would only want the rifle age changed to 21 instead of the legal age for everything changed to 21 because it would eliminate to much of their voting pool.
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Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:40 pm |
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danoh
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Location: Sumner, WA Joined: Mon Oct 15, 2012 Posts: 3026
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Having been burnt on the 21 thing, I'll not touch that.
A honest question though......... Where in the constitution, or the Bill of Rights does it say anything about 21 or even 18?
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jayd1981
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Location: Richland, WA Joined: Sun Nov 25, 2012 Posts: 633
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I know we could require an IQ test, that would stop atleast one mass shooter, that is if he wasn't willing to commit murder in order to get guns to you know commit more murder.
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Capn Blood
Location: On your six Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2018 Posts: 873
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danoh wrote: Having been burnt on the 21 thing, I'll not touch that.
A honest question though......... Where in the constitution, or the Bill of Rights does it say anything about 21 or even 18? Our masters tell us that "Shall not be infringed" doesn't mean what we think it means
_________________ Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt the Younger
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17822
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I've read the 2nd A a couple of times, and never saw an age requirement. There is a difference between age, and maturity. I had my own scuba diving business at 13. I've seen people 21, and over that should not have anything sharper than a spoon. So where do we draw the line?
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sigman226
Location: Oly Wa Joined: Fri Aug 10, 2012 Posts: 614
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PMB wrote: TwizDD wrote: If you raise the age to vote to 21, you damn sure better raise the age to serve in the military to 21 also. Screw it, lets raise all of the age restrictions to 21! Tobacco, driving, porn, lets just make it so people are not considered adults now, until the age of 21. Talk about a slippery slope! I'm pretty sure these students aren't the only age group we've seen act this way. College students are acting this way, and a lot of other groups of all ages. We've seen it with BLM, we've seen it with the Womens March, we've seen it just about every current political activist group. It's not an age related issue, it's a society related issue. Just my opinion Also, when we do that, let's go ahead and admit that we have failed our society because of poor education. In Spanish, la mala educación means much more than just Reading, 'Riting and 'Rithmetic. PMB for the win.
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Caveman Jim
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Location: In my Cave near the Cloquallum Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2013 Posts: 7809
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Capn Blood wrote: NO compromise. Every time you give the left a cookie they are encouraged to take the entire bakery So true and they have absolutely nothing to offer either, they just pull on the heart strings of the gullible uninformed voters....
_________________"You are either with us...as Americans. Or, You are against us. There is no IN BETWEEN." ??? "We cannot negotiate with those who say, 'What's mine is mine, and what's yours is negotiable.'" JFK "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” -Ben Franklin MadPick wrote: I don't think you beat your children enough.
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dimes
Location: Redmond Joined: Wed Jul 4, 2012 Posts: 315
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Caveman Jim wrote: Capn Blood wrote: NO compromise. Every time you give the left a cookie they are encouraged to take the entire bakery So true and they have absolutely nothing to offer either, they just pull on the heart strings of the gullible uninformed voters.... That's always been the most perplexing thing to me. The pro-rights side gets absolutely diddly-poop, and they call it a "compromise." The only explanation I can come up with is that our representatives on the right are teacher's pet-types who just want pats on the head and to be told they're good. They don't even stop and think that the people who give them (temporary) pats on the head want them to be completely marginalized.
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