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Hardcast is important. You don't want expanding SD bullets.


Agree. Glock 20 L with 15+1 full power, 200gr hard cast. In a holster of choice is not so hard to carry.

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WA game wardens use bean bag and other less lethal rounds to scare away black bears when they release them from cages. Seem pretty effective.
Also have Karelian Bear Dogs that scare the shit out of bears.

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As if bears aren't terrifying enough already, now they're carrying pistols?!?!?!? :runforthehills:

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I hope none of us ever have to defend ourselves against a bear who is armed with a pistol. Can you imagine whats going to happen when they finally get their paws on our battery-operated assault muskets of War?!

My name is Jeff, and I approve this grammar hijack! :bigsmile:

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Geek, my shoulder rig with said 44 is pretty comfortable to tote. Heck, my backpack always weighs 40 lbs, so 3 more lbs ain't gonna make lick of difference.:p

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WA game wardens use bean bag and other less lethal rounds to scare away black bears when they release them from cages. Seem pretty effective.
Also have Karelian Bear Dogs that scare the shit out of bears.


This is probably the more effective part of their strategy. The bean bags are just gravy. Without the dogs I'd be willing to bet there would be a lot fewer wardens loading their guns with LTL ammo and a lot more going the 12ga route.

I'd run away from a guy brandishing an empty pop can if his buddy was fanged, shouting, and generally looking like he wanted to give me a good chomp. So I guess if you can convince a toothy, psychotic friend to go hiking with you, you can carry whatever you want...

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Geek, my shoulder rig with said 44 is pretty comfortable to tote. Heck, my backpack always weighs 40 lbs, so 3 more lbs ain't gonna make lick of difference.:p

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Beautiful pic as always :drool: Beautiful lever gun and nice DA 44 mag. Used to own a Ruger Super Blackhawk 7.5" barrel though it's been years ago now. Figure I'm overdue to buy a 44 mag :bigsmile: Be safe in bear country and enjoy the hiking.

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Just read the title. Only 97 % success rate.

Fucking sucks to be you if you are a 3 percent-er.

I would be comfortable with 44 mag - or better, 45 long Colt topped with 265 gr hard cast.

Wear the bear, or the bear shits you out in a couple days.

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Pablo wrote:
PMB wrote:
Hardcast is important. You don't want expanding SD bullets.


Agree. Glock 20 L with 15+1 full power, 200gr hard cast. In a holster of choice is not so hard to carry.


As a certified computer chair cowboy this would be my choice.

Some of these incidents say the person with a .44mag fired a warning shot into the dirt to scare it away... I'd say f that. I wouldn't want to count my rounds and waste one of my 6 shots.

15+1 200gr hardcast max load all the way. Besides, think about the worst case scenario if your shooting hand is injured but you have to use it anyway. In my mind it would be easier to hang onto 10mm Glock in recoil and grip characteristics alone, allowing for follow up shots with an injured hand.

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Had a few .500 SW's, Desert Eagles. Really need a bandoleer holster or some suspenders. Felt like I was leaning a bit to one side.
Now, in Bear Country I have a 45-70 Marlin Guide Gun (Leupold 1.5-5) or a Rem 700 in .375 H&H mag (Leupold 3X9) nearby.
But ya, a 10mm pistol makes a lot of sense.

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Pablo wrote:
PMB wrote:
Hardcast is important. You don't want expanding SD bullets.


Agree. Glock 20 L with 15+1 full power, 200gr hard cast. In a holster of choice is not so hard to carry.


As a certified computer chair cowboy this would be my choice.

Some of these incidents say the person with a .44mag fired a warning shot into the dirt to scare it away... I'd say f that. I wouldn't want to count my rounds and waste one of my 6 shots.

15+1 200gr hardcast max load all the way. Besides, think about the worst case scenario if your shooting hand is injured but you have to use it anyway. In my mind it would be easier to hang onto 10mm Glock in recoil and grip characteristics alone, allowing for follow up shots with an injured hand.


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AK: Kim Woodman Kills Charging Grizzly with 10 mm 29 July, 2016

On 29 July, 2016, about 4 p.m. Kim Woodman was attacked by a sow brown bear at Humpy Creek.

Kim had a Glock model 20 10 mm pistol with him. He was able to stop the attack by shooting the bear as it charged at him. While backing away from the charging bear, Kim tripped and fell backward. He instinctively attempted to fend off the bear with his foot, while he concentrated on firing the shots that saved his life. The last shot was just short of contact. It probably hit the bear in the chest, but also took off the tip of one of Kim's toes.


http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2016/08/ex ... fense.html

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How about a 45-70


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Pablo wrote:
PMB wrote:
Hardcast is important. You don't want expanding SD bullets.


Agree. Glock 20 L with 15+1 full power, 200gr hard cast. In a holster of choice is not so hard to carry.


Is that using the Glock factory barrel? I read confusing claims that you need a replacement barrel with "standard" rifling. Please enlight me


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