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Is it time we all join the NRA?
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jdhbulseye
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Location: Rochester, WA Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2016 Posts: 3761
Real Name: Mr. Idgaf
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Lots of people saying they dont always agree with them. Not bashing or anything but lets think about this. Are you saying that to try and somehow atone for the sake of those who would bitch about the organization in general or things the NRA may have done that many disagree with, or maybe simply because the organization is so slandered in the media that we subconsciously feel like we need to add the caveat? Or is it just that you want to make that statement for some other reason?
Of course I dont agree with everything the NRA has done or wants to do, but I agree with most of it. I cant think of a single organization with which I would agree 100% of the time can you think of one you would?
I make no apologies (oblique, implied, or otherwise) for belonging to an organization that really does do a lot to defend the second amendment and our right to own firearms for legitimate reasons other than simply hunting.
Again, not bashing. Just honestly curious because I see and hear this a lot and in my mind there is no need to qualify ones membership to the organization.
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- "Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm -- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves." – T.S. Eliot
"The right of self defence is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any colour or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction." - St. George Tucker
A careful definition of words would destroy half the agenda of the political left and scrutinizing evidence would destroy the other half. - Thomas Sowell
"To ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the innocent and law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless, and that the law will permit them to have only such rights and liberties as the lawless will allow...
For society does not control crime, ever, by forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of criminals. Society controls crime by forcing the criminals to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding." - Jeff Snyder
Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons. The possession of a good rifle, as well as the skill to use it well, truly makes a man the monarch of all he surveys. It realizes the ancient dream of the Jovian thunderbolt, and as such it is the embodiment of personal power. For this reason it exercises a curious influence over the minds of most men, and in its best examples it constitutes an object of affection unmatched by any other inanimate object.
Jeff Cooper 1997 The Art of the Rifle Page 1.
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- SUGGEST CASE BE SUBMITTED ON APPELLANT'S BRIEF. UNABLE TO OBTAIN ANY MONEY FROM CLIENTS TO BE PRESENT & ARGUE BRIEF.
The defense attorney's telegram to the clerk of the Supreme Court, March 29, 1939, in re United States. v. Miller.
You don't need to go to Law School to understand the constitutional implications of that.
“You can’t cut the throat of every cocksucker whose character it would improve.” - Spoiler: show
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Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:08 am |
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PMB
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jdhbulseye wrote: I make no apologies (oblique, implied, or otherwise) for belonging to an organization that really does do a lot to defend the second amendment and our right to own firearms for legitimate reasons other than simply hunting.
Again, not bashing. Just honestly curious because I see and hear this a lot and in my mind there is no need to qualify ones membership to the organization. That's a good point. I'll do some self-analysis... My acknowledgement of the NRA's faults comes from knowing that many here are quite angry with the NRA after 594, so basically trying to acknowledge their gripes. This isn't meant to reopen old 594 wounds. Let's not rehash that in this thread. When speaking with non-NRA non-2A people, I present as NRA lifer confidently and with only positive things to say. I reply to criticisms with facts and confidence. I present my NRA as champions of a Natural RIGHT.
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Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:20 am |
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Gasitman
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Location: Fife Joined: Fri Mar 18, 2011 Posts: 1688
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If you do the 5 year option, do you get the magazine for 5 years or only the first year?
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Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:27 am |
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PMB
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Gasitman wrote: If you do the 5 year option, do you get the magazine for 5 years or only the first year? 5 years.
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Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:31 am |
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Gasitman
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Location: Fife Joined: Fri Mar 18, 2011 Posts: 1688
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PMB wrote: Gasitman wrote: If you do the 5 year option, do you get the magazine for 5 years or only the first year? 5 years. So why is it that I add an extra magazine it only charges me $9.95?
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Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:35 am |
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PMB
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Gasitman wrote: PMB wrote: Gasitman wrote: If you do the 5 year option, do you get the magazine for 5 years or only the first year? 5 years. So why is it that I add an extra magazine it only charges me $9.95? I haven't looked at it for a while, but I did have 3 of the mags coming at once for awhile. If memory serves, the first magazine is included with your membership and any additional mags are 1 year subscriptions.
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Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:38 am |
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jdhbulseye
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Location: Rochester, WA Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2016 Posts: 3761
Real Name: Mr. Idgaf
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Gasitman wrote: PMB wrote: Gasitman wrote: If you do the 5 year option, do you get the magazine for 5 years or only the first year? 5 years. So why is it that I add an extra magazine it only charges me $9.95? Because the extra is for one year. They will send a renewal form in the mail when its time to renew the extra subscription like a normal yearly mag subscription. I think they do it so that people that dont want to renew the extra dont have to take the trouble to call to cancel. It cancels by default if you dont renew the second sub.
_________________MadPick wrote: Without penetration data, the pics aren't of much use. - Spoiler: show
- "Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm -- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves." – T.S. Eliot
"The right of self defence is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any colour or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction." - St. George Tucker
A careful definition of words would destroy half the agenda of the political left and scrutinizing evidence would destroy the other half. - Thomas Sowell
"To ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the innocent and law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless, and that the law will permit them to have only such rights and liberties as the lawless will allow...
For society does not control crime, ever, by forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of criminals. Society controls crime by forcing the criminals to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding." - Jeff Snyder
Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons. The possession of a good rifle, as well as the skill to use it well, truly makes a man the monarch of all he surveys. It realizes the ancient dream of the Jovian thunderbolt, and as such it is the embodiment of personal power. For this reason it exercises a curious influence over the minds of most men, and in its best examples it constitutes an object of affection unmatched by any other inanimate object.
Jeff Cooper 1997 The Art of the Rifle Page 1.
- Spoiler: show
- SUGGEST CASE BE SUBMITTED ON APPELLANT'S BRIEF. UNABLE TO OBTAIN ANY MONEY FROM CLIENTS TO BE PRESENT & ARGUE BRIEF.
The defense attorney's telegram to the clerk of the Supreme Court, March 29, 1939, in re United States. v. Miller.
You don't need to go to Law School to understand the constitutional implications of that.
“You can’t cut the throat of every cocksucker whose character it would improve.” - Spoiler: show
cityslicker wrote: I don't want to be told that I can't remove the tree by some tree-hugging pole smoker from the eat-a-dick foundation/Olympia/King County.
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Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:03 am |
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lamrith
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Location: Tacoma/Puyallup Joined: Tue May 8, 2012 Posts: 4340
Real Name: Larry
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jdhbulseye wrote: Lots of people saying they dont always agree with them. Not bashing or anything but lets think about this. Are you saying that to try and somehow atone for the sake of those who would bitch about the organization in general or things the NRA may have done that many disagree with, or maybe simply because the organization is so slandered in the media that we subconsciously feel like we need to add the caveat? Or is it just that you want to make that statement for some other reason?
Of course I dont agree with everything the NRA has done or wants to do, but I agree with most of it. I cant think of a single organization with which I would agree 100% of the time can you think of one you would?
I make no apologies (oblique, implied, or otherwise) for belonging to an organization that really does do a lot to defend the second amendment and our right to own firearms for legitimate reasons other than simply hunting.
Again, not bashing. Just honestly curious because I see and hear this a lot and in my mind there is no need to qualify ones membership to the organization. I do not think it is to defend their choice to join to other 2A members. I think it is more simply to say that they are joining even though they do not agree. That is it worth the investment to join for the simple fact of protecting our rights. I am one of those I recently rejoined after not being a member for a number of years. That was due to 594 especially, but that is far form the 1st time that the NRA has turned on gun owners and "given away" rights in concessions when laws are being pushed. A great many feel that they do not really have our backs and cannot be trusted to defend us when the pressure really gets high.
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Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:17 pm |
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Wacarry
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Location: Olympia Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2011 Posts: 3696
Real Name: Kelley
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I’ve been trying to get on the NRA’s site to upgrade to Life member but I can’t access it. Anyone else having issues? I hope it due to millions of people joining :)
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Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:34 pm |
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GeekWithGuns
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Location: Round Rock, TX Joined: Thu Mar 5, 2015 Posts: 3899
Real Name: Dave
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Wacarry wrote: I’ve been trying to get on the NRA’s site to upgrade to Life member but I can’t access it. Anyone else having issues? I hope it due to millions of people joining :) Have you tried the member services site at: https://www.nramemberservices.org/I was able to login just now.
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Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:39 pm |
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Wacarry
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Location: Olympia Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2011 Posts: 3696
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GeekWithGuns wrote: Wacarry wrote: I’ve been trying to get on the NRA’s site to upgrade to Life member but I can’t access it. Anyone else having issues? I hope it due to millions of people joining :) Have you tried the member services site at: https://www.nramemberservices.org/I was able to login just now. Perfect thank you!
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Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:44 pm |
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jackass
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Location: Burien Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2013 Posts: 5879
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I have been a vocal critic of the NRA over 20 years but they have finally woken up and I have renewed my membership.
GOA, SAF are good too, JOIN THEM ALL!
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Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:52 pm |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52040
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jackass wrote: GOA, SAF are good too, JOIN THEM ALL! Exactly.
_________________SteveBenefactor Life Member, National Rifle AssociationLife Member, Second Amendment FoundationPatriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of AmericaLife Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear ArmsLegal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy CoalitionMember, NAGR/NFGRPlease support the organizations that support all of us.Leave it cleaner than you found it.
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Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:58 pm |
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jdhbulseye
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Location: Rochester, WA Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2016 Posts: 3761
Real Name: Mr. Idgaf
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jackass wrote: I have been a vocal critic of the NRA over 20 years but they have finally woken up and I have renewed my membership.
GOA, SAF are good too, JOIN THEM ALL! JPFO?
_________________MadPick wrote: Without penetration data, the pics aren't of much use. - Spoiler: show
- "Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm -- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves." – T.S. Eliot
"The right of self defence is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any colour or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction." - St. George Tucker
A careful definition of words would destroy half the agenda of the political left and scrutinizing evidence would destroy the other half. - Thomas Sowell
"To ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the innocent and law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless, and that the law will permit them to have only such rights and liberties as the lawless will allow...
For society does not control crime, ever, by forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of criminals. Society controls crime by forcing the criminals to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding." - Jeff Snyder
Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons. The possession of a good rifle, as well as the skill to use it well, truly makes a man the monarch of all he surveys. It realizes the ancient dream of the Jovian thunderbolt, and as such it is the embodiment of personal power. For this reason it exercises a curious influence over the minds of most men, and in its best examples it constitutes an object of affection unmatched by any other inanimate object.
Jeff Cooper 1997 The Art of the Rifle Page 1.
- Spoiler: show
- SUGGEST CASE BE SUBMITTED ON APPELLANT'S BRIEF. UNABLE TO OBTAIN ANY MONEY FROM CLIENTS TO BE PRESENT & ARGUE BRIEF.
The defense attorney's telegram to the clerk of the Supreme Court, March 29, 1939, in re United States. v. Miller.
You don't need to go to Law School to understand the constitutional implications of that.
“You can’t cut the throat of every cocksucker whose character it would improve.” - Spoiler: show
cityslicker wrote: I don't want to be told that I can't remove the tree by some tree-hugging pole smoker from the eat-a-dick foundation/Olympia/King County.
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Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:01 pm |
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jackass
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Location: Burien Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2013 Posts: 5879
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JPFO too! They have a different, but noteworthy cause is in education which is critical, and especially how gun control causes genocide.
If you want to pressure politicians, NRA, GOA, SAF (any other?)
If you want direct pressure to the people, JPFO.
ALL GOOD.
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