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No shooting within 500' of buildings--applies to neighbor's?
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Site Supporter / FFL Dealer   Location: Enumclaw Joined: Fri Sep 19, 2014 Posts: 1121 Real Name: Curtis 
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Folks,
The law states that you cannot discharge firearms withing 500' of residences, businesses, or structures. http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=332-52-145 Got it. Someone asked the question: What if I'm on my property, firing into a dirt berm also on my property--and the neighbor's house is 300-400' from the firing line in the opposite direction of fire? As I read it, no matter how safe the firing line and target are, if that neighbor doesn't like guns, they could apply this law against this scenario, correct? _________________ Adventure Protection: Women-only basic protection, home defense, firearm instruction Follow us on Facebook Or join us for a class! |
| Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:08 pm |
 
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Site Supporter  Location: RENTON Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2011 Posts: 20771 Real Name: John
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Does that also apply to a building your own property?
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| Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:11 pm |
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Site Supporter / FFL Dealer Location: Enumclaw Joined: Fri Sep 19, 2014 Posts: 1121 Real Name: Curtis
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And that's another potentially silly loophole that surely someone will try to exploit. I can't find any language that excludes your own property.
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| Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:27 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: In my Cave near the Cloquallum Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2013 Posts: 7789 Real Name: Jim Sr.
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Rutilate wrote: Folks, The law states that you cannot discharge firearms withing 500' of residences, businesses, or structures. http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=332-52-145 Got it. Someone asked the question: What if I'm on my property, firing into a dirt berm also on my property--and the neighbor's house is 300-400' from the firing line in the opposite direction of fire? As I read it, no matter how safe the firing line and target are, if that neighbor doesn't like guns, they could apply this law against this scenario, correct? From reading that statute I surmised it to pertain to department-managed lands only. Nothing said about private property. _________________ "You are either with us...as Americans. Or, You are against us. There is no IN BETWEEN." ??? "We cannot negotiate with those who say, 'What's mine is mine, and what's yours is negotiable.'" JFK "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” -Ben Franklin MadPick wrote: I don't think you beat your children enough.  |
| Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:34 pm |
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Site Admin   Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38307 Real Name: Dan
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Caveman Jim wrote: Rutilate wrote: Folks, The law states that you cannot discharge firearms withing 500' of residences, businesses, or structures. http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=332-52-145 Got it. Someone asked the question: What if I'm on my property, firing into a dirt berm also on my property--and the neighbor's house is 300-400' from the firing line in the opposite direction of fire? As I read it, no matter how safe the firing line and target are, if that neighbor doesn't like guns, they could apply this law against this scenario, correct? From reading that statute I surmised it to pertain to department-managed lands only. Nothing said about private property. Exactly |
| Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:43 pm |
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Site Supporter / FFL Dealer Location: Enumclaw Joined: Fri Sep 19, 2014 Posts: 1121 Real Name: Curtis
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Good call, Caveman Jim.
Quote: (1) What is recreational target shooting? Recreational target shooting is the use of a firearm or bow and arrow on targets and the sighting in of rifles or other firearms on department-managed lands. That seems to indicate private property isn't regulated... However, Quote: (c) Persons shall not shoot on, at, across, along, down, from, or within five hundred feet, of: (i) Recreational facilities that are not specifically designed for target shooting; (ii) Residences; indicates residences--do you read this as only when shooting on department-managed lands and shooting within 500' of residences? I could go for that. Are there any other statutes that an individual might run afoul of if they shoot on their property but within 500' of a neighbor's residence? Other than "don't make an enemy of your neighbor"? _________________ Adventure Protection: Women-only basic protection, home defense, firearm instruction Follow us on Facebook Or join us for a class! |
| Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:45 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Thurston Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2014 Posts: 672 Real Name: yup
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Rutilate wrote: Folks, The law states that you cannot discharge firearms withing 500' of residences, businesses, or structures. http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=332-52-145 Got it. Someone asked the question: What if I'm on my property, firing into a dirt berm also on my property--and the neighbor's house is 300-400' from the firing line in the opposite direction of fire? As I read it, no matter how safe the firing line and target are, if that neighbor doesn't like guns, they could apply this law against this scenario, correct? Title 332 is the laws for DNR. This applies to DNR land. |
| Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:04 pm |
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 Site Supporter  Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17818 Real Name: Chuck
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Here's another wrinkle. Since the courts just ruled that your vehicle can be your residence?
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| Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:23 pm |
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 Location: Puyallup Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2012 Posts: 570
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Rutilate wrote: Are there any other statutes that an individual might run afoul of if they shoot on their property but within 500' of a neighbor's residence? Other than "don't make an enemy of your neighbor"? Local jurisdictions can enact restrictions on the discharge of firearms (per RCW 9.41.300 (2a)). So depending on where you live, either city or county ordinance will apply. Search for the ordinance appropriate to where you live. |
| Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:31 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Bellevue area - WA Joined: Wed Jan 9, 2013 Posts: 1435
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Is a dirt berm considered a structure?
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| Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:04 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Apple Country! Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2012 Posts: 4578 Real Name: J
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Rutilate wrote: Folks, The law states that you cannot discharge firearms withing 500' of residences, businesses, or structures. http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=332-52-145 Got it. Someone asked the question: What if I'm on my property, firing into a dirt berm also on my property--and the neighbor's house is 300-400' from the firing line in the opposite direction of fire? As I read it, no matter how safe the firing line and target are, if that neighbor doesn't like guns, they could apply this law against this scenario, correct? Its a WAC, not an RCW. Not applicable to private property. You need to look at the laws around your municipality. _________________ "Guns are dangerous." -Massivedesign |
| Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:49 am |
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Site Supporter / FFL Dealer Location: Enumclaw Joined: Fri Sep 19, 2014 Posts: 1121 Real Name: Curtis
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Ya'll are right--this covers DNR land. I'll look further into local statutes.
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| Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:01 am |
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Site Supporter Location: King County Joined: Thu Oct 16, 2014 Posts: 4012
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How about Roads? Are forest service roads, roads?
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| Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:32 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Everett, WA Joined: Sat Aug 4, 2012 Posts: 2798 Real Name: Snek on de ladder
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mmalleck wrote: Is a dirt berm considered a structure? No, that's a backstop, duh... |
| Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:28 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: In my Cave near the Cloquallum Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2013 Posts: 7789 Real Name: Jim Sr.
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Rutilate wrote: Good call, Caveman Jim. Quote: (1) What is recreational target shooting? Recreational target shooting is the use of a firearm or bow and arrow on targets and the sighting in of rifles or other firearms on department-managed lands. That seems to indicate private property isn't regulated... However, Quote: (c) Persons shall not shoot on, at, across, along, down, from, or within five hundred feet, of: (i) Recreational facilities that are not specifically designed for target shooting; (ii) Residences; indicates residences--do you read this as only when shooting on department-managed lands and shooting within 500' of residences? I could go for that. Are there any other statutes that an individual might run afoul of if they shoot on their property but within 500' of a neighbor's residence? Other than "don't make an enemy of your neighbor"? I do, there are residences near Department lands. Good luck and I hope your neighbors don't get their panties in a bunch. _________________ "You are either with us...as Americans. Or, You are against us. There is no IN BETWEEN." ??? "We cannot negotiate with those who say, 'What's mine is mine, and what's yours is negotiable.'" JFK "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” -Ben Franklin MadPick wrote: I don't think you beat your children enough. |
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