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SBR no longer being approved at dealers
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Site Supporter   Location: Kent, Washington Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 281 
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So I was at the ben's today and heard that form 2 manufacturing at dealers are no longer being done as of yesterday because of a letter sent out by the atf. Anyone know anything on this?
Last edited by james_green42 on Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:46 pm, edited 2 times in total. |
| Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:37 pm |
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Site Admin   Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52021 Real Name: Steve
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Do you mean Form 2 manufacturing?
I haven't heard anything. _________________ Steve Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association Life Member, Second Amendment Foundation Patriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of America Life Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms Legal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy Coalition Member, NAGR/NFGR Please support the organizations that support all of us. Leave it cleaner than you found it. |
| Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:38 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Kent, Washington Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 281
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MadPick wrote: Do you mean Form 2 manufacturing? I haven't heard anything. maybe, not sure what form does what  they were saying that the only sbr you can get is if comes form the factory as one, |
| Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:41 pm |
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Site Admin Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52021 Real Name: Steve
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When you manufacture it yourself, it's a Form 1. When a manufacturer (aka dealer) manufactures it, it's a Form 2. When you transfer from dealer to dealer, it's a Form 3. When the dealer transfers to Joe Blow, it's a Form 4.
At least, I'm pretty sure that's how it works.  _________________ Steve Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association Life Member, Second Amendment Foundation Patriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of America Life Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms Legal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy Coalition Member, NAGR/NFGR Please support the organizations that support all of us. Leave it cleaner than you found it. |
| Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:43 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Kent, Washington Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 281
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then it must be a form 2 that's not able to be done anymore?
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| Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:46 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: RENTON Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2011 Posts: 20771 Real Name: John
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What the absolute Fuck?? More games by state government based upon the verbage in our fucked up SBR laws?
I am really getting tired of this shit. _________________ Mr. Q wrote: so basically, if you have to smoke some asshole, make sure they become fertilizer and then Bounce? got it. Guntrader wrote: Huh, maybe I was an asshole. NRA Member/RSO SAF 5 Year Donor GOA Member |
| Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:03 pm |
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Site Admin  Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38307 Real Name: Dan
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Need to see letter, or get additional confirmation from other FFL's / SOT's that this letter is in existence.
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| Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:04 pm |
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 Site Supporter Location: East Renton Plateau Joined: Tue Jul 5, 2011 Posts: 914
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Rainier Arms posted on their AR15.COM forum that they are no longer going to be manufacturing SBR's via Form 2 for Form 4 transfer to Washington residents. They will still sell SBR's manufactured outside of Washington to Washington residents. They didn't say anything about a letter. They are still processing the ones they have gotten started.
Likely more games from BATman based on the deluge of calls and emails received from worrywarts that can't leave well enough alone. Just like the Form 1 follies. Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk |
| Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:14 pm |
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Site Admin Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38307 Real Name: Dan
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Well, I am glad I went the Form 2/4 route just last weekend then. I was kicking myself for being slow on the ball during the Form 1 period.
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| Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:24 pm |
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Site Admin Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38307 Real Name: Dan
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From Rainier Arms over on ARFCOM:
Quote: Just an update folks...we will continue to process the Form 2's / Form 4's for SBR manufacturing that we have received to date from our local WA customers. However, as of yesterday, we are no longer processing customer Form 2's, nor can we Form 4 a Rainier Arms SBR or PDW to a Washington resident. We can Form 4 a factory SBR from another manufacturer outside the state of WA for our WA resident customers, but until then we are suspending our past practice. We appreciate everyone's support and patronage. Thank you! |
| Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:27 pm |
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Site Admin Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52021 Real Name: Steve
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Fuuuuuuuuck.
_________________ Steve Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association Life Member, Second Amendment Foundation Patriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of America Life Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms Legal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy Coalition Member, NAGR/NFGR Please support the organizations that support all of us. Leave it cleaner than you found it. |
| Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:28 pm |
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 Location: Ft Benning Ga Joined: Sun May 31, 2015 Posts: 501
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knew this was coming, with the way the law is written, they, and other MFG's doing F2-F4 for in Wa make/residents, that sort of thing is against Wa Law.
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| Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:57 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Snohomish Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2011 Posts: 2034 Real Name: Steven
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Totally saw that coming. Derp.
Finally got the answer to how anyone can manufacturer and sell a Washington built sbr. They cant. The end. _________________ Everyone that voted for 594 is a motherfucking moron |
| Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:45 pm |
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 Location: Kent Joined: Sat Aug 10, 2013 Posts: 372 Real Name: Ric
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MadPick wrote: Fuuuuuuuuck. ^^^ this x 1billion!!!! I was getting ready to do the F2/F4 dance. I was told today by Rainier Arms There wasn't a legal way to SBR my rifle.   Just can't catch a damn break on this SBR crap.Looks like I'll be pinning the GA Spartan3 to a 10.5" after all.  Ric |
| Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:52 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: RENTON Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2011 Posts: 20771 Real Name: John
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So much for my AK SBR build....Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck You WA state!!
_________________ Mr. Q wrote: so basically, if you have to smoke some asshole, make sure they become fertilizer and then Bounce? got it. Guntrader wrote: Huh, maybe I was an asshole. NRA Member/RSO SAF 5 Year Donor GOA Member |
| Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:10 pm |
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