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Discussion or advice on how to create an Illegal NFA item will result in an immediate ban. No advice given within should replace user due diligence. Always consult a lawyer / professional.
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Do you want a Trust? Sunday, March 30th 10am
Do you want a Trust? Sunday, March 30th 10am
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Site Supporter   Location: Maple Valley, WA Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 9266 Real Name: Young 
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TacticalAssault wrote: So did anyone ask about the second question on the Form 1 in relation to trusts? Application is made by: Individual___ Corporation or Other Business Entity___ Government Entity___ I know it's not a Government entity so would it be a corp or other business entity? So yes if using a Gun Trust - you would select this box (middle one) on the Form 1, Question 2. Form 1 (to make your own NFA) http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/download ... 5320-1.pdf Form 4 (to buy NFA item from FFL) http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/download ... 5320-4.pdf _________________ "Shoot Often, Shoot Safely and Share Your Sport!" Jim Scoutten, Shooting USA |
| Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:23 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lakewood, WA Joined: Sat Apr 14, 2012 Posts: 4056 Real Name: brad aka bubba
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Did anyone ask the limit on co-trustees for the bronze?
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| Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:09 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: maple valley Joined: Mon May 6, 2013 Posts: 2575 Real Name: Earl
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I don't think you could have co-trustees on bronze.
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Founding Father  Location: Woodinville Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 4631
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oldkim wrote: TacticalAssault wrote: So did anyone ask about the second question on the Form 1 in relation to trusts? Application is made by: Individual___ Corporation or Other Business Entity___ Government Entity___ I know it's not a Government entity so would it be a corp or other business entity? So yes if using a Gun Trust - you would select this box (middle one) on the Form 1, Question 2. Form 1 (to make your own NFA) http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/download ... 5320-1.pdf Form 4 (to buy NFA item from FFL) http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/download ... 5320-4.pdf Thanks, Young. Form 1 for suppressor being submitted soon.  PEW PEW PEW._________________ "There's two things in life you can't take back... Bullets and words. So make sure you hit what you aim at and make sure you mean what you say." |
| Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:49 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: McCleary Joined: Fri Mar 7, 2014 Posts: 2003 Real Name: Andy
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Email Dennis or Keith. They will answer you.
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| Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:58 pm |
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Founding Father Location: Woodinville Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 4631
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spikedzombies wrote: Did anyone ask the limit on co-trustees for the bronze? Can't have co-trustees on the Bronze. You can have a trustee that takes over your trust upon serious injury and one that takes over upon death. The Bronze trust is written so that anyone engaging in an outdoor activity with you is covered and legally allowed to use your NFA items while with you. This is why I got the Bronze because it allows me to get the stuff and use it with friends and family without having to appoint co-trustees and just successor trustees.  _________________ "There's two things in life you can't take back... Bullets and words. So make sure you hit what you aim at and make sure you mean what you say." |
| Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:23 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Lakewood, WA Joined: Sat Apr 14, 2012 Posts: 4056 Real Name: brad aka bubba
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TacticalAssault wrote: spikedzombies wrote: Did anyone ask the limit on co-trustees for the bronze? Can't have co-trustees on the Bronze. You can have a trustee that takes over your trust upon serious injury and one that takes over upon death. The Bronze trust is written so that anyone engaging in an outdoor activity with you is covered and legally allowed to use your NFA items while with you. This is why I got the Bronze because it allows me to get the stuff and use it with friends and family without having to appoint co-trustees and just successor trustees. guess ill have to buy a small safe for my future nfa items since if im at work and such my family has access to my current firearms it would be illegal for them to have access to the nfa items without me being present and or them as co-trustee, if my understanding of the law is correct. _________________ ALL MY FIREARMS WILL ONLY BE TRANSFERRED THROUGH I-5 Guns And Ammo (Lacey WA) |
| Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:28 pm |
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Site Admin   Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52035 Real Name: Steve
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spikedzombies wrote: since if im at work and such my family has access to my current firearms it would be illegal for them to have access to the nfa items without me being present and or them as co-trustee, if my understanding of the law is correct. Yes, this is my understanding as well. This is how I read my trust, and it was confirmed by an e-mail exchange with Keith. If anyone else has the combo to your safe with the NFA items (or if you don't have a safe and they live with you), then they need to be a co-trustee. _________________ Steve Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association Life Member, Second Amendment Foundation Patriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of America Life Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms Legal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy Coalition Member, NAGR/NFGR Please support the organizations that support all of us. Leave it cleaner than you found it. |
| Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:54 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Lakewood, WA Joined: Sat Apr 14, 2012 Posts: 4056 Real Name: brad aka bubba
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MadPick wrote: spikedzombies wrote: since if im at work and such my family has access to my current firearms it would be illegal for them to have access to the nfa items without me being present and or them as co-trustee, if my understanding of the law is correct. Yes, this is my understanding as well. This is how I read my trust, and it was confirmed by an e-mail exchange with Keith. If anyone else has the combo to your safe with the NFA items (or if you don't have a safe and they live with you), then they need to be a co-trustee. yeah, i figured as much.. just means a safe specifically for NFA items ...  which is probably a good thing anyways_________________ ALL MY FIREARMS WILL ONLY BE TRANSFERRED THROUGH I-5 Guns And Ammo (Lacey WA) |
| Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:46 pm |
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Site Admin Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52035 Real Name: Steve
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Or upgrade to the Silver trust. They'll give you credit for what you spent on the bronze, you won't need to buy a new safe, and you'll be able to add co-trustees that will help in other situations as well.
_________________ Steve Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association Life Member, Second Amendment Foundation Patriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of America Life Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms Legal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy Coalition Member, NAGR/NFGR Please support the organizations that support all of us. Leave it cleaner than you found it. |
| Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:47 pm |
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Site Moderator   Location: Marysville Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 Posts: 13503 Real Name: Mike
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TacticalAssault wrote: I see a Sinus and a Tannardog in there. Damn, spotted!!! I'll have to wear sunglasses and my fake nose next time. Real incognito like  Oh and a big thanks again to Young for setting up this event. It was run very professionally, kept to a reasonable timeline, Dennis and Keith were very informative and Young and Steve did a great job putting together some cool swag to raffle off! All in all a very positive experience and I got to come home with a trust. Nice work Waguns!  _________________ Licensed/Bonded/Insured Hardwood Floor Installer/Finisher http://www.hardwoodfloorsnw.com/ |
| Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:49 pm |
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Founding Father Location: Woodinville Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 4631
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sinus211 wrote: TacticalAssault wrote: I see a Sinus and a Tannardog in there. Damn, spotted!!! I'll have to wear sunglasses and my fake nose next time. Real incognito like Oh and a big thanks again to Young for setting up this event. It was run very professionally, kept to a reasonable timeline, Dennis and Keith were very informative and Young and Steve did a great job putting together some cool swag to raffle off! All in all a very positive experience and I got to come home with a trust. Nice work Waguns! I thought you WERE wearing them.  _________________ "There's two things in life you can't take back... Bullets and words. So make sure you hit what you aim at and make sure you mean what you say." |
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Site Moderator Location: Marysville Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 Posts: 13503 Real Name: Mike
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TacticalAssault wrote: sinus211 wrote: TacticalAssault wrote: I see a Sinus and a Tannardog in there. Damn, spotted!!! I'll have to wear sunglasses and my fake nose next time. Real incognito like Oh and a big thanks again to Young for setting up this event. It was run very professionally, kept to a reasonable timeline, Dennis and Keith were very informative and Young and Steve did a great job putting together some cool swag to raffle off! All in all a very positive experience and I got to come home with a trust. Nice work Waguns! I thought you WERE wearing them. No no, that was my fake double chin. Yeah, that's it. Fake. _________________ Licensed/Bonded/Insured Hardwood Floor Installer/Finisher http://www.hardwoodfloorsnw.com/ |
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