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 Assigning non-NFA items to Trust? 4473 needed? 
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Question, I am assigning a couple stripped lowers to my NFA trust (guntrustguru.com) to form 1 them into an SBR. Since WA state has every individual transferee do a 4473 NICS check when a transfer is involved (i594). How does this affect me who personally owns these lowers, assigns them to a trust that is an entity and not an individual? I am the only responsible person on this trust but plan to add another co-trustee once I get my tax stamps back. Thanks!


Tue May 01, 2018 7:36 pm
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Well, your question is one that I don't think you'll find a good and clear answer to . . . except for this.

Washington state law requires that you do a background check for "firearms." If you look at the Washington definition of a firearm, a stripped lower does not qualify.

Thus, no transfer is required for stripped lowers. And I am not a lawyer, of course. :bigsmile:

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Tue May 01, 2018 7:40 pm
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Yeah, I just found this:

"RCW 9.41.010 wrote:
(9) "Firearm" means a weapon or device from which a projectile or projectiles may be fired by an explosive such as gunpowder. Source: Revised Code of Washington"


I bought these lowers myself from Rainier Arms and it wouldn't make sense to do another check on them when I assign them to my trust, when I'm the only person on the trust but what do I know about these crazy WA state laws.


Tue May 01, 2018 7:49 pm
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Indeed, you cannot let logic be your guide to the law. :ROFLMAO:

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Like Madpick said, there's no clear answer on this, and logic is increasingly useless when applied to firearm laws. I agree with his interpretation of the RCW definition of firearm as it applies to stripped lowers (that it doesn't apply to them), but I know others disagree.

Having said that, I asked an attorney about this (after 594 passed, but prior to it going into effect), and he said that when you form a trust, you have to assign it assets, but that it doesn't necessarily have to be monetary (could be anything of value). There was no reason that non-NFA firearms couldn't be those assets of value.

Bottom line, I think that no matter how you do it, I doubt it's ever going to be an issue. That may or may not be good enough for you, so YMMV. :thumbsup2:


Wed May 02, 2018 11:17 am
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Good information there. Thank you.


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