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Sharps 1874 Montana Rough Rider by Shiloh
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sportsdad60
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Thanks for the link! Steve Baldwin includes several with his silhouette sights.
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Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:04 pm |
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Arisaka
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sportsdad60 wrote: Arisaka wrote: sportsdad60 wrote: For those interested in the bullet build...
After measure Ogive, I made a dummy bullet (no powder, primer) and noticed the starline brass would not fit the chamber. These cases were used in my springfield trapdoor and I fixed the issue by doing a resizing full body length, then they fit the Sharps chamber fine! After primering and belling the mouths, I proceded in making 20 test loads. 65 gr (*by volume, then trickle by weight) Old Enysford 2F black powder .030 greased veggie wad Compressed with a Montana Compression die .090 520 gr BACO "Money Bullet" compressed the load further by .100 Taper crimped ever so slightly to eliminate the bell (so they would fit the chamber) Wiped their butts and chambered each load to insure they *fit* What are you expecting for muzzle velocity? 1250 -1300 That will drop what, about 2 feet at 200 yards?
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sportsdad60
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Arisaka wrote: sportsdad60 wrote: Arisaka wrote: sportsdad60 wrote: For those interested in the bullet build...
After measure Ogive, I made a dummy bullet (no powder, primer) and noticed the starline brass would not fit the chamber. These cases were used in my springfield trapdoor and I fixed the issue by doing a resizing full body length, then they fit the Sharps chamber fine! After primering and belling the mouths, I proceded in making 20 test loads. 65 gr (*by volume, then trickle by weight) Old Enysford 2F black powder .030 greased veggie wad Compressed with a Montana Compression die .090 520 gr BACO "Money Bullet" compressed the load further by .100 Taper crimped ever so slightly to eliminate the bell (so they would fit the chamber) Wiped their butts and chambered each load to insure they *fit* What are you expecting for muzzle velocity? 1250 -1300 That will drop what, about 2 feet at 200 yards? For a 520.gr trapdoor, its 62" at 200 yards. Like a potato gun, but with lead! I bet it will be close for the Sharps.
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Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:19 pm |
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Arisaka
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Jesus Christ! 5 feet of drop at 200 yards? Is that a rifle or a mortar? Bet it hits like a ton, though.
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Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:10 pm |
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Isildur
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Arisaka wrote: That will drop what, about 2 feet at 200 yards? And roughly 148 FEET at 1000 yards. Shooting the buffalo guns long range is so much fun. I used to do 1000 yards matches in Bend, at 1/2 life size buffalo steel gongs. Muzzles up at what seemed like the angle of a mortar and 4+ seconds from trigger pull to gong, which gave you plenty of time to take an earplug out so you could hear the hit! Fun times. My Remington Hepburn #3 Long Range Target Rifle Caliber .40-90 Sharps Straight
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KeystoneCowboy
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Jesus. Here I was thinking my Uberti repro of the 74 pretty nice. That thing is tits! Still love my Uberti, but you make it look like a pig!
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Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:28 pm |
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Arisaka
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Everybody likes tilts.
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Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:40 pm |
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MadPick
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Jagerbomber35 wrote: Jesus. Here I was thinking my Uberti repro of the 74 pretty nice. That thing is tits! Still love my Uberti, but you make it look like a pig! Yeah, I'm in pretty much the same boat. Holy hell, the case hardening . . . wow.
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Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:32 pm |
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sportsdad60
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Isildur wrote: Arisaka wrote: That will drop what, about 2 feet at 200 yards? And roughly 148 FEET at 1000 yards. Shooting the buffalo guns long range is so much fun. I used to do 1000 yards matches in Bend, at 1/2 life size buffalo steel gongs. Muzzles up at what seemed like the angle of a mortar and 4+ seconds from trigger pull to gong, which gave you plenty of time to take an earplug out so you could hear the hit! Fun times. My Remington Hepburn #3 Long Range Target Rifle Caliber .40-90 Sharps Straight Beautiful!
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Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:38 am |
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sportsdad60
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Just a follow up after bring "Nuthin' Fancy" to the range for the first time. Some observations: The vernier sight is similar, not unlike, the Buffington I'm used to using with my Trapdoor. The Baldwin Soule vernier sight was set at 1/4 (25 pts I assume?) and placed on paper nicely at 25 yards. I kept bringing it out, to 50 then 100 yards to "zero" it. The Baldwin Soule sight registered 40 pts for 100 yards. My groupings sucked, the last 4 shots are closest to the vertical axis. The first shot was low and left, I overcompensated windage and the next 2 were low and to the right. The last 4 shots started coming in. (nearest center vertical axis) I used a blow tube in between shots and swabbed the chamber for clean entry. I also ran a wet patch (water and Murphy's soap mixture) down the barrel every 5th shot followed by a dry patch. First thing I learned is that I need to put the "vertical staff" card in the front globe on my next trip to the range.(Lollypop) I didn't bring all the cards sights to the range so I stuck with what I had. Also, I'll learn to make a better more accurate bullet. I've started separating the 520 gr BACO money mold boolits by weight. No more than .4 gr apart, then grouped. They throw between 518.2 grs to as much as 520.5 grs using 20/1 lead I purchased from Buffalo Arms. Now that I have 20 fired cartridge brass pieces, I *should* be more successful in the next batch that I make. This last 20 I used 65 gr of Old Enysford 2F, drop tubed, .030 wad. CCI #250 primer. Compression was .09 with a montana compression die. Then added the boolit and compressed another .06. I did not separate lighter or heavier bullets. After steel tumbling the freshly fired brass, I am going to experiment. For instance the suggestion to wipe the bullet base clean of any SPG lube, less compression with the actual bullet (and more compression with the die) and I have .060 veggie wads, I may try a few of those instead of the .030. Once I get consistent at 100 yards I'll move it out to 200 yards. I predict I'll need to add 14 points to the 40 showing on the staff.
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:46 am |
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Arisaka
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You have too much spare time. Get a job!
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:48 pm |
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MadPick
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Arisaka wrote: You have too much spare time. Get a job! I have a feeling that with this rifle, spare time will be a thing of the past. This feels like a project!
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:11 pm |
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sportsdad60
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Arisaka wrote: You have too much spare time. Get a job! LOL! MP is right. I just dumped another $190 into a custom Inline bullet seater build by Shiloh Sharps. The frame sits on top of the single stage press and a piece of barrel reamed to the specs of my rifle is the seater (no grooves, just a smooth wall .458) I'm planning on attending my first Quigley match in Montana in 2021 and win the rookie class! https://www.quigleymatch.com/
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sportsdad60
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I dialed it in at 200 yards with my BACO money bullet 20/1 lead hand loads. Quote: Once I get consistent at 100 yards I'll move it out to 200 yards. I predict I'll need to add 14 points to the 40 showing on the staff. I ended up at 48 points of the staff. I was close! After a few shots at 200, these were my last 3. Check out the MOA on that target! I was looking for groups, not bulls. I'm jacked now! Can wait to get this out further than 200 yards!
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