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JMosqueda
Location: Fort Lewis Joined: Mon Nov 3, 2014 Posts: 9
Real Name: Jorge
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So today I was in Seattle for about 5 hours OC'ing. Me and my wife were just walking around downtown just taking in the sights. No trouble at all whatsoever! Saw one LEO and I greeted him with a good evening and he did the same. Yea there was a look here and there but overall it was good. Not the way I expected it to go considering the fact there's so many anti's
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Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:28 pm |
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Benja455
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Location: White Center Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 6489
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Most people in Seattle are pretty oblivious...I doubt more than half of them realized you were carrying.
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Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:45 pm |
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JMosqueda
Location: Fort Lewis Joined: Mon Nov 3, 2014 Posts: 9
Real Name: Jorge
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True, I kinda figured that. Also, I saw a couple signs by the waterfront stating that it was illegal to have a firearm there. I am well aware that state law trumps local ordnances, but if a LEO shows up can he detain you if you're carrying there or is the city just not aware of state preemption?
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Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:54 pm |
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FattyKrack
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Location: Bainbridge Island Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2013 Posts: 1684
Real Name: Matt
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JMosqueda wrote: True, I kinda figured that. Also, I saw a couple signs by the waterfront stating that it was illegal to have a firearm there. I am well aware that state law trumps local ordnances, but if a LEO shows up can he detain you if you're carrying there or is the city just not aware of state preemption? Hey there buddy. Those signs there have no merit. They are bunk. There's a thread over on opencarry.org (WA section of course) about those very signs. I have walked through there OC with no problems. I wasn't up on my video camera or anything, but it's always at the ready whether OC or not. As said above, 85% or more are oblivious to the fact that you have a visible piece at your side. I've received more positive comments (8 to 1!) than anything ill. However one time over at Sweet Iron Waffles (foo foo but delicious) I created quite the stir.. Only place that OC, or any carry, that has been a problem was at Seattle center. They check your bags at the Space Needle, and guy found my spare mag. I had to go back to the car to deposit (was with gf and kiddo.. otherwise, nope.).
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Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:19 pm |
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38292
Real Name: Dan
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Yup, Seattle cannot ban firearms from parks. They can only ban the discharge of them.
When I was at Pike Place Market a few years ago, there was a no firearms sign at the park above the market. I took a picture of it and sent it off to the City's Park dept with a request they revise the sign to match state law. Blanket response back, never got changed.
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Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:56 am |
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deadshot2
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Location: Marysville, WA Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 Posts: 11581
Real Name: Mike
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FattyKrack wrote: JMosqueda wrote: True, I kinda figured that. Also, I saw a couple signs by the waterfront stating that it was illegal to have a firearm there. I am well aware that state law trumps local ordnances, but if a LEO shows up can he detain you if you're carrying there or is the city just not aware of state preemption? Hey there buddy. Those signs there have no merit. They are bunk. There's a thread over on opencarry.org (WA section of course) about those very signs. I have walked through there OC with no problems. I wasn't up on my video camera or anything, but it's always at the ready whether OC or not. As said above, 85% or more are oblivious to the fact that you have a visible piece at your side. I've received more positive comments (8 to 1!) than anything ill. However one time over at Sweet Iron Waffles (foo foo but delicious) I created quite the stir.. Only place that OC, or any carry, that has been a problem was at Seattle center. They check your bags at the Space Needle, and guy found my spare mag. I had to go back to the car to deposit (was with gf and kiddo.. otherwise, nope.). Those signs are perfectly legal for private businesses to post and if you ignore you can be trespassed. If you are in a public area or park, good to go. Best heed the signs posted by the businesses though unless you want to be escorted OUT, possibly by a police officer.
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Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:50 am |
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Bill Starks
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Location: Kentucky Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2011 Posts: 1551
Real Name: M1Gunr
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JMosqueda wrote: True, I kinda figured that. Also, I saw a couple signs by the waterfront stating that it was illegal to have a firearm there. I am well aware that state law trumps local ordnances, but if a LEO shows up can he detain you if you're carrying there or is the city just not aware of state preemption? Chan v Seattle is the court case that fixed the parks issue. All public parks (city, county, state, federal) allow carry. Buildings are off limits on federal lands. http://www.saf.org/?tag=chan-v-seattle
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Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:06 am |
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sensei9
Location: Aberdeen Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2011 Posts: 169
Real Name: James Presswood
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deadshot2 wrote: FattyKrack wrote: JMosqueda wrote: True, I kinda figured that. Also, I saw a couple signs by the waterfront stating that it was illegal to have a firearm there. I am well aware that state law trumps local ordnances, but if a LEO shows up can he detain you if you're carrying there or is the city just not aware of state preemption? Hey there buddy. Those signs there have no merit. They are bunk. There's a thread over on opencarry.org (WA section of course) about those very signs. I have walked through there OC with no problems. I wasn't up on my video camera or anything, but it's always at the ready whether OC or not. As said above, 85% or more are oblivious to the fact that you have a visible piece at your side. I've received more positive comments (8 to 1!) than anything ill. However one time over at Sweet Iron Waffles (foo foo but delicious) I created quite the stir.. Only place that OC, or any carry, that has been a problem was at Seattle center. They check your bags at the Space Needle, and guy found my spare mag. I had to go back to the car to deposit (was with gf and kiddo.. otherwise, nope.). Those signs are perfectly legal for private businesses to post and if you ignore you can be trespassed. If you are in a public area or park, good to go. Best heed the signs posted by the businesses though unless you want to be escorted OUT, possibly by a police officer. You can only be charged with trespassing if they ask you to leave and you refuse.
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Sun Apr 12, 2015 11:28 am |
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UpDog
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Location: Burien Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2011 Posts: 3302
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this moron vagina man that was actually a merchant tried to heckle me at the market. i kept it koo and kept it edumacated. in hindsight, i shoulda just been like i have little man syndrome for all it did. trapped his dumbass at the seat belt question. he wouldn't answer it. til like 10 seconds later he said i take the bus and he walked off. a merchant...
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Sun Apr 12, 2015 11:51 am |
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JMosqueda
Location: Fort Lewis Joined: Mon Nov 3, 2014 Posts: 9
Real Name: Jorge
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Well next time I know better about the parks!
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Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:14 pm |
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Benja455
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Location: White Center Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 6489
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UpDog wrote: this moron vagina man that was actually a merchant tried to heckle me at the market. i kept it koo and kept it edumacated. in hindsight, i shoulda just been like i have little man syndrome for all it did. trapped his dumbass at the seat belt question. he wouldn't answer it. til like 10 seconds later he said i take the bus and he walked off. a merchant... Could you please repeat this story in proper English?
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Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:36 pm |
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UpDog
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Location: Burien Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2011 Posts: 3302
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Benja455 wrote: UpDog wrote: this moron vagina man that was actually a merchant tried to heckle me at the market. i kept it koo and kept it edumacated. in hindsight, i shoulda just been like i have little man syndrome for all it did. trapped his dumbass at the seat belt question. he wouldn't answer it. til like 10 seconds later he said i take the bus and he walked off. a merchant... Could you please repeat this story in proper English? this moron vagina man that was actually a merchant tried to heckle me at the market. i kept it koo and kept it edumacated. in hindsight, i shoulda just been like i have little man syndrome for all it did. trapped his dumbass at the seat belt question. he wouldn't answer it. til like 10 seconds later he said i take the bus and he walked off. a merchant...
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Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:28 pm |
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kf7mjf
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Location: Olympia Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 Posts: 16044
Real Name: Steve
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UpDog wrote: Benja455 wrote: UpDog wrote: this moron vagina man that was actually a merchant tried to heckle me at the market. i kept it koo and kept it edumacated. in hindsight, i shoulda just been like i have little man syndrome for all it did. trapped his dumbass at the seat belt question. he wouldn't answer it. til like 10 seconds later he said i take the bus and he walked off. a merchant... Could you please repeat this story in proper English? this moron vagina man that was actually a merchant tried to heckle me at the market. i kept it koo and kept it edumacated. in hindsight, i shoulda just been like i have little man syndrome for all it did. trapped his dumbass at the seat belt question. he wouldn't answer it. til like 10 seconds later he said i take the bus and he walked off. a merchant...
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Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:29 pm |
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Jack Beauregard
Location: Sno Ho Co Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2013 Posts: 132
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There goes the beverage out the nose again!
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Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:32 pm |
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codfather
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Location: Rainier Joined: Sat Jun 28, 2014 Posts: 1502
Real Name: Darryl
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What is the seat belt question??
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Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:36 pm |
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