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Pointers for new open carrier
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17819
Real Name: Chuck
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Serpa CQC is the greatest holster: http://www.blackhawk.com/Products/Produ ... sters.aspxMost people don't notice (I OC a Govt 1911). Just go about your business as usual. In 5-6 years I've never had an issue. If you don't have a CPL, get one anyway. With a CPL you don't have to unload/re-load every time you get in, and out of a car.
_________________ "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson "Evil often triumphs, but never conquers." Joseph Roux
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Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:19 pm |
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mckownjl
Location: aberdeen Joined: Sat Jun 20, 2015 Posts: 6
Real Name: Joe
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I plan on using my springfield XD40 but since u mentioned holsters. Does anybody have a place to get a holster for the Beretta m9a1. The rail makes it impossible to find a holster for it. At least a kydex or good plastic/ polymer with some retention
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Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:04 pm |
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dagamore
Location: Ft Benning Ga Joined: Sun May 31, 2015 Posts: 501
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personally I would stay far away from any Serpa holster, too many people have had ND with that holster. I just dont trust any holster that makes you put your finger just about in the trigger guard to remove the weapon.
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Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:11 pm |
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17819
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dagamore wrote: personally I would stay far away from any Serpa holster, too many people have had ND with that holster. I just dont trust any holster that makes you put your finger just about in the trigger guard to remove the weapon. I would like to see something to back up that claim. It leaves my finger on the side of the frame above the trigger. I will stand in front, or behind a serpa any day.
_________________ "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson "Evil often triumphs, but never conquers." Joseph Roux
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Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:37 pm |
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17819
Real Name: Chuck
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_________________ "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson "Evil often triumphs, but never conquers." Joseph Roux
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Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:44 pm |
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quantsuff
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Location: central wa Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2011 Posts: 3555
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mckownjl wrote: I plan on using my springfield XD40 but since u mentioned holsters. Does anybody have a place to get a holster for the Beretta m9a1. The rail makes it impossible to find a holster for it. At least a kydex or good plastic/ polymer with some retention
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Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:28 pm |
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UpDog
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Location: Burien Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2011 Posts: 3308
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dagamore wrote: personally I would stay far away from any Serpa holster, too many people have had ND with that holster. I just dont trust any holster that makes you put your finger just about in the trigger guard to remove the weapon. Nice internet parroting. Hear something and repeat away.
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Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:26 pm |
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mckownjl
Location: aberdeen Joined: Sat Jun 20, 2015 Posts: 6
Real Name: Joe
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UpDog wrote: dagamore wrote: personally I would stay far away from any Serpa holster, too many people have had ND with that holster. I just dont trust any holster that makes you put your finger just about in the trigger guard to remove the weapon. Nice internet parroting. Hear something and repeat away. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zYvAxLX6OzEHere's a video that explains at around the 2 min mark that u cant.blame the holster. But u can choose one that lends to safer practices Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
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Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:41 pm |
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PMB
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Joined: Wed Mar 6, 2013 Posts: 12018
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Lots of good valid advice here, except for the snipe at Uncle Mike's from the Peanut Gallery.
Probably the best thing that a new OC person can do is continue to read, learn and be mellow. I find it much easier to shake off an angry reaction when OCing...
Robert Heinlein said (wrote) "An armed society is a polite society" and I believe it.
Read the old sci-fi book Tunnel in the Sky by the aforementioned genius, RAH. He said something in that book that really influenced my attitude and behavior regarding how a person feels when he's armed.
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Sat Jun 20, 2015 11:11 pm |
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gogodawgs
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Location: Federal Way Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2011 Posts: 171
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Be polite, be kind, be courteous and professional.
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Sun Jun 21, 2015 6:50 am |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52064
Real Name: Steve
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PMB wrote: the Peanut Gallery
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Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:08 am |
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dagamore
Location: Ft Benning Ga Joined: Sun May 31, 2015 Posts: 501
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UpDog wrote: dagamore wrote: personally I would stay far away from any Serpa holster, too many people have had ND with that holster. I just dont trust any holster that makes you put your finger just about in the trigger guard to remove the weapon. Nice internet parroting. Hear something and repeat away. When I did the firing part of my SC training, the guy two stalls down shot him self and he was using a serpa, more then a few trainers now forbid serpa's because of the safety issues. This search pulls up 97K+ threads : https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#safe ... s+in+classNot saying a serpa will cause or force an ND, but there are better options out there. Hell Frontsight, that used to sell the Serpa(dont know if they ever sold the Serpa2) now bans the holster, unless you totally disable the finger locking system. Personally I am a big fan of leather with either a thumb break or a push hoop, not a fan of kydex, but hey your leg, your risk. if i had to use a kydex i would go with something like this. http://aliengearholsters.com/1911-5-inc ... tband.html Got a budy with one, and it is very secure, very nice, and about the same price, and with out the problem of putting your finger near the trigger and pushing down with it. Just my 2 cents.
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Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:11 pm |
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UpDog
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Location: Burien Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2011 Posts: 3308
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dagamore wrote: UpDog wrote: dagamore wrote: personally I would stay far away from any Serpa holster, too many people have had ND with that holster. I just dont trust any holster that makes you put your finger just about in the trigger guard to remove the weapon. Nice internet parroting. Hear something and repeat away. When I did the firing part of my SC training, the guy two stalls down shot him self and he was using a serpa, more then a few trainers now forbid serpa's because of the safety issues. This search pulls up 97K+ threads : https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#safe ... s+in+classNot saying a serpa will cause or force an ND, but there are better options out there. Hell Frontsight, that used to sell the Serpa(dont know if they ever sold the Serpa2) now bans the holster, unless you totally disable the finger locking system. Personally I am a big fan of leather with either a thumb break or a push hoop, not a fan of kydex, but hey your leg, your risk. if i had to use a kydex i would go with something like this. http://aliengearholsters.com/1911-5-inc ... tband.html Got a budy with one, and it is very secure, very nice, and about the same price, and with out the problem of putting your finger near the trigger and pushing down with it. Just my 2 cents. Your 2 cents are rotten. You know of one guy. How many people do you know have gotten into a car collision? I say collision because THERE ARE NO ACCIDENTS. And of course trainers never spread false info either. Especially conceal carry trainers. They love open carriers in their classes! Woot woot. Anyone that says a serpa forces your trigger onto or in their trigger guard must be on some sort of drug. Or their grip has to be fucked up beyond repair.
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Sun Jun 21, 2015 6:00 pm |
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Powderman
Location: WA State Joined: Fri Feb 8, 2013 Posts: 658
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If you decide to open carry, I offer a couple of suggestions:
1. Get some valid training in--and PRACTICE--weapon retention skills. 2. I most emphatically recommend that you do NOT use a holster made of Kydex, or other polymer. Why is that? There is a move known as the Kydex disarm. Someone who knows it can have your gun AND destroy your holster within 3 seconds. 3. If you do open carry, why not go whole hog? Get yourself a good retention holster and practice with it.
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Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:16 pm |
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CurtisLemansky
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Location: Snohomish County Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2013 Posts: 2300
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UpDog wrote: Anyone that says a serpa forces your trigger onto or in their trigger guard must be on some sort of drug. Or their grip has to be fucked up beyond repair. Agreed. The Serpa promotes a master grip and I've never had it draw any differently. Anyone who gets any other result likely has no idea what they're doing and has no business carrying a firearm to begin with, IMO. Sent from my UAV using Disposition Matrix 2.0
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