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leadcounsel wrote:I've studied this a bit, and have been stopped twice while carrying. Both times went off without an issue. Both times, I informed the officer I had a CPL and gun in the car and they told me not to touch it. Here's my takeaway.
Do: Hands on steering wheel or outside the car window until instructed otherwise. Communicate and be courteous and polite and respectful, "Yes sir, no sir." Put the car in park, and preferably turn it off and put the keys on the dash. Your goal is to put the officer at ease and show you are not a threat.
Do NOT: Touch your gun. At all. Do NOT fiddle with the glove box, console compartment, unbuckle yours seat belt or get out of the car. An officer who sees you leaning over and going to the glove box will assume you are getting a weapon or hiding something illegal.
Here's what I do. I use my turn signal and move over off as far on the shoulder or preferably a non-busy parking lot or side street as soon as practical. I put the vehicle in park and turn it off. I put my hands outside the window or on the steering wheel so he can see I am not doing anything threatening. I speak respectfully. I take all commands, and tell him "I am a CPL holder and am carrying or it's in the vehicle in the glove box..." I make no movements until instructed, and then I communicate. "The registration is in the glove box, and that's where my weapon is." Or whatever. I try to never use the word "Gun" since that is a trigger word cops find threatening. If I think that my weapon is too close to the location, like I'm carrying next to my wallet, I tell him and ask how he wants me to handle that situation. I might even suggest that he disarm me or whatever. I haven't gotten to that point yet.
But whatever you do, fully communicate and be slow and methodical. Do not place the officer in any fear since traffic stops are quite dangerous for them. For God's sake never touch your gun.
Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:07 am
todd1803 wrote: Once the officer asked if he could hold the pistol and verify as not stolen, which I had no problem with.
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Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:14 am
todd1803 wrote:This exactly! The officer needs to believe that you aren't a threat. I've been stopped a couple times and always disclosed the location of the weapon. Once the officer asked if he could hold the pistol and verify as not stolen, which I had no problem with.
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Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:50 pm
Guntrader wrote:What if the officer wanted everyone to consent to a cavity search to determine you're not a threat?
Would you have a problem with that?
Reasonable Articulable Suspicion, Probable Cause, or a Search Warrant.
Not a hunch, guess, or just to show the cop 'you aren't a threat'.todd1803 wrote:This exactly! The officer needs to believe that you aren't a threat. I've been stopped a couple times and always disclosed the location of the weapon. [b]Once the officer asked if he could hold the pistol and verify as not stolen, which I had no problem with.[/b]
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Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:27 am
Selador wrote:
Be courteous. Show respect even if the officer is the most disrespectful person you have ever met.
Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:06 am
deadshot2 wrote:Selador wrote:
Be courteous. Show respect even if the officer is the most disrespectful person you have ever met.
There is always a way to deal with officers like that AFTER he goes. You can file a complaint with his department and chances are you won't be the only one. Unless it's a three man department where all officers are related, you can rest assured that there will be a counseling session and maybe even a career change in his future.
The LAST place to deal with it is on the side of the road during the stop.
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