Sat Aug 20, 2016 5:13 pm
Sat Aug 20, 2016 5:27 pm
Sat Aug 20, 2016 5:59 pm
golddigger14s wrote:"He asked for my magazine... "
Sorry, no thank you. I do not consent to touching my weapon while you are present without a warrant. Here is my DL/reg/ins, thank you.
Sat Aug 20, 2016 6:20 pm
Massivedesign wrote:golddigger14s wrote:"He asked for my magazine... "
Sorry, no thank you. I do not consent to touching my weapon while you are present without a warrant. Here is my DL/reg/ins, thank you.
Yup. I could have been a dick, but he could have then pulled me out and taken my gun for the duration of the stop. Which, under Terry, they are allowed to do.
Sat Aug 20, 2016 9:07 pm
ANZAC wrote:If you're pulled over, don't go rummaging for ANYTHING including your wallet.
Don't get out of the car. Never say "I HAVE A GUN!" Don't touch your gun, don't move your gun.
Put your driver's window down, turn your engine off, then put both hands on the wheel.
The officer might not ask you for DL/insurance/rego. He might just want to tell you you have a tail light out, or maybe want to check out your car....
If he asks for DL/insurance/rego, tell him where they are eg "they're in the glove box/my wallet/visor" and wait for an ok.
If you feel so inclined you can include your CPL with the papers you hand him/her. But that's up to you.
If you have a gun in the glove compartment with your DL/insurance/rego, say "I am a CPL holder and my firearm is in the glovebox with my license, what would you like me to do?".
If your gun is in its holster there is no need to say anything, unless you are going to put your hands near it. If your holster is the same side as your wallet, I'd also tell him that. "Sir, I'm a CPL holder, and my firearm is on the same side as my wallet, is it ok if I get my wallet out?"
Leave everything up to the cop, he'll tell you what he wants to see, when and how.
We live in Washington USA. Most police assume you are armed until proven otherwise. That's why they want you to stay in the vehicle.
Sat Aug 20, 2016 9:26 pm
BadKarma wrote:Who the fuck still puts a gun in the glove box?
Sat Aug 20, 2016 10:24 pm
Olympia173 wrote:I was in the passenger seat when a friend of mine was pulled over while carrying concealed, and he handled it very well. He simply left his hands on the steering wheel, and when the officer approached, the first thing he said was "Officer, I'm a CPL holder and I'm carrying a concealed weapon." The police officer asked where the weapon was, my buddy told him, and that was that. I would think that the last thing you would want to do is to fumble around with the weapon. Also, RCW 9.41.050 says:
(2)(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee's person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.
I've always been under the impression that to possess a loaded pistol in your vehicle you had to keep it on your person, but (ii) above seems to imply there is an option to store it elsewhere provided you are in the vehicle. Does anyone know for sure?
Sat Aug 20, 2016 10:29 pm
MorrisWR wrote:I've posted my story before about WSP and informing him about the CPL. I got off without even a warning to slow down, which surprised me since I was doing 75 in a 60 on my way to work. He had a good sense of humor also. Your info is good but the few times I've been stopped by Troopers, they always come to the drivers side so I open both sides.
Sat Aug 20, 2016 10:35 pm
guncruiser wrote:Olympia173 wrote:I was in the passenger seat when a friend of mine was pulled over while carrying concealed, and he handled it very well. He simply left his hands on the steering wheel, and when the officer approached, the first thing he said was "Officer, I'm a CPL holder and I'm carrying a concealed weapon." The police officer asked where the weapon was, my buddy told him, and that was that. I would think that the last thing you would want to do is to fumble around with the weapon. Also, RCW 9.41.050 says:
(2)(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee's person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.
I've always been under the impression that to possess a loaded pistol in your vehicle you had to keep it on your person, but (ii) above seems to imply there is an option to store it elsewhere provided you are in the vehicle. Does anyone know for sure?
Yes, you can have it anywhere in the vehicle as long as you are in the vehicle (or your passenger is a CPL holder).
Sat Aug 20, 2016 10:39 pm
Powderman wrote:A close friend told me about a stop he made. Car, on a rural road, he's alone. Vehicle pulled over...but he noticed that the guy was watching in the rearview. His hands were out of sight, too.
My friend said that the alarm bells went off. He called for backup, and when backup arrived they got the guy out of the vehicle. So...what did they find?
Car was clear; but the driver was a convicted felon.
The driver had a sawed off .22 rifle in his lap. On the passenger's side, a loaded AR.
Sat Aug 20, 2016 11:03 pm
Selador wrote:Massivedesign wrote:golddigger14s wrote:"He asked for my magazine... "
Sorry, no thank you. I do not consent to touching my weapon while you are present without a warrant. Here is my DL/reg/ins, thank you.
Yup. I could have been a dick, but he could have then pulled me out and taken my gun for the duration of the stop. Which, under Terry, they are allowed to do.
This is exactly why I said he was looking to see how you would react.
React like a butthead, and you'd probably get treated like a butthead who has a gun...
React with respect, and he left it at that.
Sat Aug 20, 2016 11:07 pm
Beer Hounds wrote:BadKarma wrote:Who the fuck still puts a gun in the glove box?
I do on occasion for long road trips, but that is the only time. It is mo comfy.
Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:42 am
Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:45 am
Rapogee wrote:Thoughts on this gents?
Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:55 am
Jammer Six wrote:Rapogee wrote:Thoughts on this gents?
Drive so you don't get stopped.
If you're not white, conceal your weapon for when you do get stopped.